Author Topic: Institute of tchort forbidden lab quest problem (spoilers)  (Read 1887 times)

chimaera

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Institute of tchort forbidden lab quest problem (spoilers)
« on: January 13, 2016, 08:24:28 pm »
This is directly connected to the "locked out of tchort's institute" problem. As it is, you can only free the rejected in the forbidden lab if you join the tchortists., because the correct sequence of events for this quest to succeed is: jump down the hole in West Wing, open the cages and the ventilator shaft leading to the West Wing. Unfortunately, this means that If you make the tchortists hostile too early (e.g by failing the interview), you won't be able to finish this quest, because jumping down that hole locks you out of the institute.

Such quest design would make sense if you had to sneak the rejected out, but it is possible to fight your way through the entire building instead, killing all tchortists, and in this case it makes no sense that you still have to find them a "secret" way out. It's not like there are any "keepers" left to stop them.

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Re: Institute of tchort forbidden lab quest problem (spoilers)
« Reply #1 on: January 13, 2016, 08:56:34 pm »
No one with a sane mind would send them out through the front door of the institute, so the hole is really the only exit that makes any sense whatsoever.
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Re: Institute of tchort forbidden lab quest problem (spoilers)
« Reply #2 on: January 13, 2016, 09:32:32 pm »
No one with a sane mind would send them out through the front door of the institute, so the hole is really the only exit that makes any sense whatsoever.

If there are no Tchortists left in the institute, then the front door would be the preferred way to send them out, unless you think there is some sort of danger for the "rejects" beyond the main gate other than the Tchortists themselves? I mean, the alternate entrance lets them out into the West Wing instead - a dangerous place filled with various monsters, still close to the Institute, with no way to get out into Underrail proper. It is not exactly an ideal hiding place for the rescued captives either.

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Re: Institute of tchort forbidden lab quest problem (spoilers)
« Reply #3 on: January 13, 2016, 10:08:57 pm »
No one with a sane mind would send them out through the front door of the institute, so the hole is really the only exit that makes any sense whatsoever.
Not really, you could send them through Nevil's escape route to avoid the main entrance, except you can't tell them about that. This makes even less sense: Nevil is the one that tells about them being trapped in the lab, and if you have killed all the tchortist, who is stopping them from leaving?

The problem is you won't get them to leave unless you jump down the hole, and if you've made tchortist hostile before that, you'll get locked out from the institute and won't be able to continue with the main quest.