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smg+assault rifle build
« on: November 06, 2020, 09:06:21 am »
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My final SMG-assault rifle build look like this. I have no idea how is gameplay with 18 dexterity, and also I did not play dominating. But hard difficulty definitely not hard enough.

I'm using 7.62 impala with muzzle break (9 shots per burst) and fast reloader and 8.6 assault rifle (green scope and muzzle break). Tactics is simple - in beginning of combat you kill somebody with burst from smg, and then you kill most strongest enemy from assault rifle. After it you can deal 2 more bursts from impala. Totally, 4 bursts per round (9 bullets each), more then enough. If I use adrenaline, I have 1 or 2 additional bursts, depending from ammo in magazine and bonus AP from rapid reloader.

From armor I prefer rathound regalia, because of speed. It allow me to come close and make 4-6 burst and kill all enemies in almost all fights during first round. If there is too much enemies, I try to avoid damage completely by hiding behind walls or columns and making bursts from assault rifle.

Mechanics need for weapons craft
electronics for plasma grenades and shield emitter (high + medium + efficient ~ 1200 shield with protection 300 240 160 39 13)
chemistry for grenades mk4
biology - useless, it was mistake. Think better choise mercantile or persuade or lockpick or hacking
tailoring - useless, rathound regalia best choise for this build

At first I use 8.6 steelcat with barrel compensator and forward grip (+25% burst precision). Not so bad, but not so good even. With such burst precision you can kill enemy on long distance, but you lose your "area" burst damage, because all your bullets come into primary target. In same time, it is not so strong as assault rifle, and distance of burst also not so long. So, I prefer to use smg + assault rifle.

My mistakes -
biology - completely useless on hard (look like biology should be used for melee and psionic builds, not smg), only useful drugs is +critical chance and super health hypo. If you do no mistakes, you did not lose health, and super health hypo just no need. Critical chance is also between 15 and 30% (with googles), it is more then enough. Jumping bean or irongut or aegis also no need, because you should avoid damage completely or avoid it with another stuff, like a gas mask. In same time you have a lot of health hypo, morphine and adrenaline from your enemies.

aimed shot - I chose it on early levels, and still use it in deep caverns, but from my thoughts, you need concentrated fire or quick tinkering.

I make assault rifle with 8.6 caliber instead of 9mm. Think better make 9mm for highest damage.

2 specialisation points in spec ops - I think it work with all grenades, but it work only with 'tactical'
« Last Edit: November 06, 2020, 10:18:50 am by asdf »

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Re: smg+assault rifle build
« Reply #1 on: November 06, 2020, 10:12:14 am »
The idea of using SMGs to proc Commando for free 9mm AR burst is good. Muzzled 9mm Chimera with Green Scope is the way to go, imo. Good for Aimed Shots, as well.

You could fit Snipe in there somewhere and use it to take down key targets, retreating with Vanishing Powder Grenade after so you can switch to your AR.

Since you're going Rathound Regalia you could just lvl enough Biology to make Focus Stims and enough Chemistry to make MKIV Frags. No need for Three-Pointer; that feat is taken with max-Dex-max-Throwing. Don't say they are useless, though ;).

You could swap Trigger Happy for Quick Tinkering. You have loads of Stealth so you can always scout enemy positions and spot the stealthed ones before they spot you. Basically starting combat on your terms.

You might want to skip later arena fights since you won't be able to start combat deterministically.

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Re: smg+assault rifle build
« Reply #2 on: November 06, 2020, 10:31:00 am »
>No need for Three-Pointer
Agree, it helps only during small period when your bursts not deadly enough.

>You could swap Trigger Happy for Quick Tinkering.
Yes, may be. It just make late game more comfortable. For an example I come to ark power station and I just walk forward without any stealth. Robot just appear in vision range, I kill it and finish fight. Next moment another robot appear (movements point reset to 70 or 100), you kill him and finish fight, and so on.

>you could just lvl enough Biology to make Focus Stims
I have it, but I use it only once when kill Balor (and pretty sure I can do it without). Main problem - it take 10 AP to use, and I almost never feel I need it to finish fight. If it be 0AP per use, it would be much more useful.

« Last Edit: November 06, 2020, 10:33:43 am by asdf »

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Re: smg+assault rifle build
« Reply #3 on: November 06, 2020, 10:34:12 am »
Look for a belt that reduces medicine AP consumption.