Author Topic: Echoing Soliloquy high persuasion bug?  (Read 522 times)

Turbodevil

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Echoing Soliloquy high persuasion bug?
« on: November 09, 2022, 08:02:42 pm »
From patch notes: Echoing Soliloquy now gets a buff from persuasion (applied at the moment you obtain the feat and remains constant afterwards)

Wiki suggests the buff is 5% per 30 effective persuasion. (ofc wiki may be wrong)

I made a DOMINATING character and pumped persuasion to 150 for maxing this buff (25% bonus) so I can trivialize DC by slowing down creeping dread stacks, but buff proved to be unnoticable.

Napkin math:
- on DOMINATING I get 3-5 creeping dread stacks, average 4, per turn/6 seconds
- 75% chance per stack to not have it applied, so out of 4 stacks only 1 should get appied on average
- of course this is random, so I can get any amount from 0-5 stacks, but expected result should be 1 stack per turn on average, and frequent 0s and 2s.

Actual situation:
- consistent frequent 1-3 stacks per turn, 0s or 4s sometimes happen, 5s happen very rarely
- this is the same expected result as fully unbuffed (0 persuasion) Echoing Soliloquy, as it has expected stacks per turn equal to 2

Random is random, sample size is low and wiki can be wrong. Then again, if I can't see effect of 150 persuasion which should double my time to get Eye of Tchort debuff, I think it is a bug :)
« Last Edit: November 14, 2022, 01:10:02 pm by Turbodevil »

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Re: Echoing Soliloquy high persuasion bug?
« Reply #1 on: April 11, 2023, 09:23:08 am »
Very late response, but I tested this and while the feat's effect works well on lower difficulties, the current formula kinda doesn't apply well to higher difficulties. So I reworked the formula for the next patch, and it should now be a lot more reliable.