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Underrail => General => Topic started by: snake2243 on July 18, 2017, 04:06:14 am
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Just checking back on and asking if anyone has had any luck finding siphoner man in my last thread someone made a post claiming that they found them in a certain area but when I asked him about it they did not follow up no response whatsoever can't tell if I was getting memed on. So I have to ask has anyone found the legendary siphon or man because I for the life of me cannot find him. Somebody please help me. :
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To my knowledge, it's a joke / red herring. I'm pretty sure that guy was just messing with you earlier. ;)
Of course, there's no telling what easter eggs the devs might add in the upcoming expansion or any future updates. Maybe the siphoner man will reveal himself yet? ;D
(But seriously, as far as I know, there's nothing).
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- Utility Slot #6
But that's solved. Hell, you are the one who explained it.
- Al Fabet's ultimate fate (he's not dead!)
How would you know that?
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Great mysteries of Underrail
in vague order of first appearance
- TLV
- (int) abuse
- Tanner
- Ezra
- Mysterious Disk
- Dude's thought(?) process
- Styg's doppelganger in Junkyard
- Siphoner Man
- pig_backpack_l.png
- Hollow Earth Incident
- lack of ladders near the institute
(1.0 release)
- Tanner's sunglasses
- Utility Slot #6
- Black Arrow
- Eidein's Passage (jk its unfinished)
- Siphoner Man
- Faceless Medallion
- Al Fabet's ultimate fate (he's not dead!)
- why they called it Expedition instead of Doom Sea of Doom
- Two-Headed Mutant
Correct me if I'm wrong, but didn't somebody post the picture of a 2 headed mutant a while ago?
EDIT: Yep, somebody did found it. Link to the topic: http://underrail.com/forums/index.php?topic=3031.0
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A serb with a weird hat claimed so...
Sounds credible to me.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but didn't somebody post the picture of a 2 headed mutant a while ago?
Yeah, but we still don't know the exact conditions that need to be met for him to appear. At least most of us don't.
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- Styg's doppelganger in Junkyard
Styg has a doppelganger in Junkyard?
Also, more mysteries of Underrail, ordered arbitrarily:
- Bladelings of Unusual Size (I don't think they exist)
- East and West Underrail
- Brzozplno Nebrechega Skontam (what does it mean??)
- What the trains look like on the inside
- lux-c4 (go home map, you're drunk)
- the door in cv-14 (you know the one)
- that door in the lair of the final boss
- related: where the heck the Faceless go to after [redacted]
- Maurice (some people call him the Space Cowboy)
- Eidein's ultimate fate
- the meaning of life loot is life. life is loot.
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- lux-c4 (go home map, you're drunk)
Let's not speak about that anymore....
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Important on-topic addendum: As far as I can tell, siphoner men are not particularly fond of mushrooms.
Initializing goose_chase.exe
We can't risk AI Styg overtaking the world, even if it would mean faster Underrail releases.
And more frequent dev logs! ;D don't hurt me plz I have a family
On a more serious note:
- it's explained by someone ingame
So there actually is an in-game explanation for this? I've been looking for info on this for ages, but I've never been able to find anything more than the line "Except for one. Eidein's body was never found." from the ending slides. Could you please give me a hint as to where I should look to find out what happened to Mr. Metal-face in the end?
I've always just killed him to get the keycard--I've never lockpicked the door--so I don't know if that has something to do with why I get that particular ending slide every time.
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So there actually is an in-game explanation for this? I've been looking for info on this for ages, but I've never been able to find anything more than the line "Except for one. Eidein's body was never found." from the ending slides. Could you please give me a hint as to where I should look to find out what happened to Mr. Metal-face in the end?
I've always just killed him to get the keycard--I've never lockpicked the door--so I don't know if that has something to do with why I get that particular ending slide every time.
So maybe this is already explained by the guy you are referring to Epeli, but my last bossfight I noticed how incredibly uncanny a resemblance the Mouth of Tchort had to Eidein.
There is a portait on the wiki of him appearently, just take a look if you want to see what I mean.
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Go and have a chat with a particularly talky faceless commander, you know the one. His dialogue had few unreachable branches before the experimental patches earlier this year. You've probably missed those. You might also want to try taking a less antagonistic stance with the institute tchortists someday, just to get a bit wider perspective to what happened there right before your descent.
Ah, perhaps I should have been more specific. I always killed Eidein to get the keycard during the Faceless invasion. For role-play purposes, I would ally with him up until the point when he refuses the player entry into the Deep Caverns while standing right in front of the elevator, and then I would choose the *Attack!* dialogue option and focus on killing Eidein and Samuel while the other Tchortists are distracted by the invading Faceless. This way I can preserve my alliance with the Faceless, too. ;)
As silly as it sounds, I had never considered the possibility that the Faceless had just collected Eidein's body for observation, obvious as it sounds. I really feel like quite an idiot, as that makes by far the most sense! For some reason I always assumed that he somehow got up and walked away. But of course the Faceless would want to take him apart to see how he works.
I had actually already seen that particular bit of dialogue from the commander, too, when I went back to it on the experimental patch. I guess I just totally forgot that I had even read it! :P
Regardless, thanks for the help, epeli. It is much appreciated. :)
So maybe this is already explained by the guy you are referring to Epeli, but my last bossfight I noticed how incredibly uncanny a resemblance the Mouth of Tchort had to Eidein.
There is a portait on the wiki of him appearently, just take a look if you want to see what I mean.
Yeah, I definitely see what you mean, but given the info presented by the Faceless Commander (that is: that the Faceless collected his body), I think it's safe to say that they are not the same person. Although, maybe it was the physical appearance of the Mouth of Tchort which inspired Eidein's costume?
Oh, and sorry for derailing this thread so much. :P
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He has a point though, there is a resemblance. It's very likely Eidein is simply the only successful of the rejects so far. Or maybe rejects are unsuccessful copies of Eidein?
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Danm you syphoner man, danm you, being difficult as fuck to find. theirs no reason to believe syphoner man is a hoax or just some meme mystery.
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(I don't feel like covering this entire post in spoiler-text, so here's your spoiler warning for those who haven't beaten the game yet. Caveat lector!)
He has a point though, there is a resemblance. It's very likely Eidein is simply the only successful of the rejects so far. Or maybe rejects are unsuccessful copies of Eidein?
Hmm... a good theory, but that doesn't explain why all of Aiden Traver's memories are retained if he is a Reject himself (unless they transplanted his brain, but that's too easy of an excuse! ;) ). I can definitely see the latter being the case, though it fails to explain why the Mouth of Tchort is where it is.
Instead, perhaps the Mouth of Tchort itself is a Reject who escaped into the Deep Caverns and was subdued by Tchort? It definitely doesn't seem to me like the Mouth is speaking autonomously. Rather, I think the Eye is using the Mouth as a mobile set of vocal cords, so to speak.
Alternatively, it could be that the Mouth of Tchort was sent there deliberately by the Tchortists to speak on their god's behalf, and is therefore itself a successful Reject?
Lastly, perhaps the Rejects were created using the genetic data of the Mouth of Tchort, who predates the Rejects and the Institute entirely?
Or maybe it's none of the above! I suppose only the devs know.
Danm you syphoner man, danm you, being difficult as fuck to find. theirs no reason to believe syphoner man is a hoax or just some meme mystery.
Well, Styg posted a Pepe meme here a while back, so anything's possible.
EDIT: What's more, he posted that meme in the other siphoner man thread, so my bet's still on this all just being a hoax or dev in-joke.
or maybe the real siphoner man was inside us all along *inspiring jingle plays*
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The mouth itself can be explained very simply if you ask me. There has been... other examples of people like him, didn't we? Merged together as Tchortling like thing.
*Wink wink nudge nudge*
It is highly unlikely that Eldein being only successful specimen. Didn't Tchortist have some other unit of newly bio-engineered unit? The name escapes me for a moment... (they look more buffed than heavily armored compared to normal Tchortists)
It should be noted that most tchortists have similar masks, especially those bio-engineered unit. I can guess how it looks inside.
It is most likely that they have been experimenting with the Tchort genes. New bio solders - gene mods are their end products, Eldein is another. Rejects are merely the means to an end.
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(I don't feel like covering this entire post in spoiler-text, so here's your spoiler warning for those who haven't beaten the game yet. Caveat lector!)
He has a point though, there is a resemblance. It's very likely Eidein is simply the only successful of the rejects so far. Or maybe rejects are unsuccessful copies of Eidein?
Hmm... a good theory, but that doesn't explain why all of Aiden Traver's memories are retained if he is a Reject himself (unless they transplanted his brain, but that's too easy of an excuse! ;) ). I can definitely see the latter being the case, though it fails to explain why the Mouth of Tchort is where it is.
Instead, perhaps the Mouth of Tchort itself is a Reject who escaped into the Deep Caverns and was subdued by Tchort? It definitely doesn't seem to me like the Mouth is speaking autonomously. Rather, I think the Eye is using the Mouth as a mobile set of vocal cords, so to speak.
Alternatively, it could be that the Mouth of Tchort was sent there deliberately by the Tchortists to speak on their god's behalf, and is therefore itself a successful Reject?
Lastly, perhaps the Rejects were created using the genetic data of the Mouth of Tchort, who predates the Rejects and the Institute entirely?
Or maybe it's none of the above! I suppose only the devs know.
Danm you syphoner man, danm you, being difficult as fuck to find. theirs no reason to believe syphoner man is a hoax or just some meme mystery.
Well, Styg posted a Pepe meme here a while back, so anything's possible.
EDIT: What's more, he posted that meme in the other siphoner man thread, so my bet's still on this all just being a hoax or dev in-joke.
or maybe the real siphoner man was inside us all along *inspiring jingle plays*
ya i was the one who made that thread, once I dont believe that it's just a meme. also if you go back and look at my post at the start of this thread, I aquired a picture from another player showing a human corps of a syphon. i dont think this person was meming though.
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I aquired a picture from another player showing a human corps of a syphon. i dont think this person was meming though.
If you must know, that was a shroom trip gone wrong. Lucifuga likes breaking everything he can with traps, so he went and killed one of the motion hallucinations... or maybe it wasn't a hallucination? Maybe he was talking with a frog all the time? Whichever the case, that is not the siphoner man you're looking for.
Real siphoner men wear clothes! Naked siphoner men would just cause A Heap Of Trouble.
Danmit! well thanks for the information on that one. guess ill delete the little post on that one.
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I aquired a picture from another player showing a human corps of a syphon. i dont think this person was meming though.
If you must know, that was a shroom trip gone wrong. Lucifuga likes breaking everything he can with traps, so he went and killed one of the motion hallucinations... or maybe it wasn't a hallucination? Maybe he was talking with a frog all the time? Whichever the case, that is not the siphoner man you're looking for.
Real siphoner men wear clothes! Naked siphoner men would just cause A Heap Of Trouble.
Danmit! well thanks for the information on that one. guess ill delete the little post on that one.
Guilty as charged
Set up the traps beforehand and then talked to Sergio the Wizard to get into motion
Was initially curious if the old man's inventory changed when he transforms but it looks to be just a graphic swap vs a character one
Was hoping for an unobtainable drop forgotten during development
Took a screenshot of the scene to add on to the mysticism of the anomaly - Here be the place (http://i.imgur.com/CknECFO.jpg)
Sorry to have yanked your chain like that
Best of luck finding him
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Wow, so much cool lore in this thread that I haven't discovered yet!
Yeah, I definitely see what you mean, but given the info presented by the Faceless Commander (that is: that the Faceless collected his body), I think it's safe to say that they are not the same person. Although, maybe it was the physical appearance of the Mouth of Tchort which inspired Eidein's costume?
Oh, and sorry for derailing this thread so much. :P
Could you tell me what the particular conversation branch for this is? I tried to replay a Deep Caverns save after my last post here to talk to the commander, but I couldn't seem to get any information about Eidein from him. Underrail shows as "Underrail [Experimental]" in steam, with the experimental beta being opted into. Is this all that is required? Maybe the save is too old, or shouldn't that matter as long as I am playing the experimental branch?
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As always, caveat lector. This post contains major spoilers.
Could you tell me what the particular conversation branch for this is? I tried to replay a Deep Caverns save after my last post here to talk to the commander, but I couldn't seem to get any information about Eidein from him. Underrail shows as "Underrail [Experimental]" in steam, with the experimental beta being opted into. Is this all that is required? Maybe the save is too old, or shouldn't that matter as long as I am playing the experimental branch?
I'd be happy to help. :)
The information concerning Eidein's fate is revealed in dialogue by selecting the option "I noticed that you have Tchortist captives in the base." This option only becomes available, naturally, after the player enters the room adjacent to the Commander's where the captives are being held and (I think) initiates dialogue with one of them.
Selecting this options leads to the Faceless Commander telling you that they were captured during the invasion, at which point you can select "Did you read their minds as well?" and then "Can you tell me what you found out?" following that.
This results in the Commander telling you a lot of really neat information about the Institute, Tchortism, ulterior motives, and all that fun stuff. Selecting "What are their motives? Power?" yields more information, this time on Eidein and Tchort specifically. At this point you should select "And why do you think that is what Eidein's goal was?", which results in the following paragraph being relayed.
"His body has yet to be examined, but we have sufficient data to assume that Eidein had underwent multiple mutations over the years, altering his appearance, capabilities and lifespan to a significant degree, and that he had no intention of halting his personal progress. The concealing nature of his as well as all Tchortist clothing exist for that reason -- so that he may work on himself under the mask of secrecy; by sharing it with his subordinates he legitimizes it, makes it appear transparent when it is in fact oblique."
Pretty cool stuff, right? Although, this statement does not directly confirm that the Faceless have obtained Eidein's body, only that it has yet to be examined (but one can assume that it is in their possession, as they would have to be the world's biggest idiots not to claim it immediately after his "death").
Also, may I just say that I think the writing in this game is excellent. Seriously, all the people who say that Underrail has sh*tty writing clearly never made it past Junkyard. The writing is brilliant, and I love you guys for it. Keep it up, StygSoft. :)
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Wow, thanks man! I think it's because I didn't enter the room with the Tchortists that I didn't get the branch at first.
Who was it that said Eidein's body was never found again? I agree though, it does strongly imply that they have him in their possession. Why "death" though? Is there something else I have forgotten about?
I agree 100% about the writing. The writing, story and character development in this game is just about the best I have ever encountered. To me this is the main reason that this game has such staying power. There's always something to discover and discuss. It's strange how the best games just come falling out of the sky sometimes. This is easily in my top five list of all games I have ever played.
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Who was it that said Eidein's body was never found again? I agree though, it does strongly imply that they have him in their possession. Why "death" though? Is there something else I have forgotten about?
The ending of the game is told through a lengthy sequences of slides that vary according to which quests you completed (and how you completed them), which factions you joined, which lore you unearthed, etc. etc. You can find a list of all possible endings (to my knowledge) over on the wiki @ http://www.underrail.com/wiki/index.php?title=Endings
The first slide for the Institute details how "Once the Protectorate soldiers managed to crack the heavy gate and enter the Institute, they found none alive among the carnage. All the bodies of the dead Faceless were gone and all the Tchortists lay where they fell."
This is followed by the line, "Except for one. Eidein's body was never found."
I think this line is supposed to go away if you talk to the Faceless Commander about the captives and Eidein, but IIRC it still played for me anyway on my last playthrough.
Lastly, I put death in quotations because I've played enough games to know that the bad guy is never truly dead until you cut off his head, burn everything to a crisp, and then stare menacingly at the writers. :P
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I think im just gonna put the gloves up on finding him really. I have no clues to if im getting closer or if i fucked anything up, if have to do XXX i just dont know, been trying to find this guy for over a year now. Maybe someone else can find him.
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I think im just gonna put the gloves up on finding him really. I have no clues to if im getting closer or if i fucked anything up, if have to do XXX i just dont know, been trying to find this guy for over a year now. Maybe someone else can find him.
It's also a possiblity that the whole thing was a Red Herring all along, and we wasted our time by trying to find him. I hope that's not the case though....
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The siphoner man is so psionically endowed that the mere thought of him will lead forum members on a wild goose chase. I'd say he's one of Underrail's many characters with ulterior motives, his being the facilitation of leading people to secrets.
Whether he exists or not, the chance of stumbling upon other cool hidden stuff whilst looking for him makes it all worthwhile I suppose!
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Happy 6th of August! It's Siphoner Man's birthday! (http://i.imgur.com/P6rROTP.gif)
Is it his 3rd one?
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I encountered the two headed mutant; I didn't know that was strange.
He was in depot A north, in the red circle, as I came in the direction of the blue arrow. What was strange, I thought, was that I had cleared that map already and was just going back through on my way out. I opened that door and bam, there he was, standing out in the middle by himself.
(http://i64.tinypic.com/2jte9i.png)