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Builds / Re: This guy Sseth apparently will make these forums more popular

« on: September 10, 2019, 04:02:35 pm »

That said, none of this matters if you aren't playing on Dominating difficulty. On Hard and lower, SMG builds are still plenty strong enough (even with the nerf) to complete the game with, especially if you buy the expansion content. (Assuming, of course, that your build is decent.) On Hard difficulty, the final area and final boss will probably give you some trouble, but as long as you make sure to spec enough Chemistry and Mechanics to build your own W2C ammo, you should be fine.

Really, the saving-grace of all SMG Burst builds is the ability to make your own W2C ammo.

Maybe I'll compile my thoughts/experiences into a build post one of these days, but to be honest, SMG builds are pretty easy to get right.

That's basically what I was looking for. I'm just looking to do a normal/hard play-through, nothing extreme and I will probably pick up the expansion this Christmas, but just wanted to make sure things wouldn't get too out of hand.  I'll use the Nerd Commando Spec ops build keeping in mind about the burst item combo not functioning anymore as I level up. Thanks for your candid advice.

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Builds / Re: This guy Sseth apparently will make these forums more popular

« on: September 10, 2019, 01:43:17 pm »

@T1vader, I did find his build video for Spec Ops and was going to use that, I just didnt know if anyone had any input on any changes that should be made since that vid is a bit old at this point or if it still stands without needing any tweaking.

Basically, is all the talk about the SMG burst nerf just an OP combo that was brought back to a normal level of balance and people miss the OP or is it suboptimal in some way now?

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Builds / Re: This guy Sseth apparently will make these forums more popular

« on: September 10, 2019, 01:10:41 pm »

Reading the forums through and trying to find build videos on youtube I did see a fair amount of the SMG/Spec Ops builds and was interested in trying that for my first time, but I also saw talk about it being nerfed with a patch. Is it still viable? I only picked up the base game and the only updated SMG build I could find said the expansion was required for it.

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Builds / Re: This guy Sseth apparently will make these forums more popular

« on: September 10, 2019, 02:48:51 am »

Can confirm, picked up the game and got to the forums thanks to Seth highlighting things. Excited to dive in.