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Thanks a lot!Do you mind sharing what general tactics you use, and other useful feats?
Trying to make a gunslinger work myself, with excellent initiative. I am pretty fragile, so struggle with surviving explotions and psi damage, and having enough damage output. Do you get good mileage out of the execute feat?
Maxed stealth (stealth gear except for crit goggles) and traps (+trappers belt/jack knife). Nets/caltrops/grenades. Feats are: Paranoia, Gunslinger (had max initiative at 1st level; only failed once against another gunslinger), Interloper, Opportunist, Expertise, Quick Tinkering, Blitz, Ambush, Execute, Grenadier (im at 16th right now). I've barely made use of ambush; I'm not using incendiaries much so far, just flares and that barely ever works. Execute is even rarer because I don't use flashbangs much yet, don't have a tazer, and only occasionally bust out the crawler knives. It's honestly not so much a gunslinger build as a stealth/traps/utilities build; I mainly use the pistols to mop up or deal good damage to a bear-trapped enemy (and a significant initiative boost). 10 agility + interloper + stealth gear means I never have problems sneaking around, even without custom gear. But even when I'm surprised, I do well because of initiative, speed, dodge/evasion, and accuracy (LS pistols, usually 95% even at a distance). Lots of options makes a difference too.
Basically the trick is to never let your enemies get to attack you; you move around a corner, shoot them, then move away.
S3/D10/A10/C3/P8(++++++)/W3/I3. Max throw/guns/dodge/evasion/stealth/lock/hax/traps, until about 60 points in locks then I started pumping bio with those points.
SS drug requires 130 effective biology, and you won't have the crafting benches for that.Do you mind sharing what general tactics you use, and other useful feats?
With 10 Per, like paul says, you'll only have 203 which will often be lower (on top of distance/darkness penalties if any). With 15 dex, you may as well dump per to 3 and boost dex to 16 and melee to 135 skill and take versatility, which would give you 170 effective guns. You'd still need however much guns skill for feats prerequisites. You could use stuff like dirty kick/taser/flashbang/nets (with throwing)/bear traps (quick tinkering) or even incapacitation with cheap shots or pneumatic gloves, in order to bring your enemies dodge/evasion to 0 and giving you 95% chance to hit virtually regardless of your actual skill.
I'm playing a no-crafting gunslinger on dominating in the new update and I'm level 16 and doing very good, a lot better than I expected. I barely have any gun feats (gunslinger, expertise, execute). I have 10 dex and started with 8 per which will end up at 14. I use a 5mm at 10 AP and a .44 at 24 AP.
Anyway, I think leaving dex at 10 and maxing per is generally the better option, then focus on crit chance (goggles, infused rathound leather, focus stim).
- If you're going to play normal, 90 effective traps is enough. If you want some DOMINATING experience, have it 120.I believe smart goggles do not affect special bolt attacks (or other "utilities")?
- Most ranged build are okay with 0 dodge, plus all NVG and some headband have serious 1/4 penalty to it. Meanwhile, 110 effective steath is far away from "high', especially in Lv20 combat scenes. You can just combine high-end stealth leather armor (50 bonus) + balaclava (15 bonus) + Cloaker (45 bonus) to get extra 110, if you dump balaclava/leather armor you can still use powerful cloakers for 60+ bonus, with extremely high electronic it could be very easy for you. But, with stealth lower than 200, sensitive enemy like Lunatics, spiders, would found you out in seconds even 5~10 tiles away (Depends on difficulty). There's also bonus damage for Snipe through increasing your stealth. Not to mention you'll suffer strong penalty from Creeping Dread/The Eye of Tchort in DC.
Also 5 CON and 5 AGI is strange, you didn't pick any feat which related to this certain stat score. My suggestion is tweak to 3 CON and 8 AGI (7+1 at Lv8), pick Evasive Maneuver in early game instead of Kneecap Shot/Power Management. Eat Jumping Bean before you activate it. Additionally, 7 INT for Bowyer is enough, you can take 15 PER for reliable Crossbows skill, otherwise you'll found it very hard to actually hit those nasty tchortlings while some strange thing weakening you in all trades.
- As a xbower you are already starved for utility slots, at least 3 mandatory slots (shock for stun, incendiary for extra CC chance, taser for melee range defense) so Throwing is not good. If you have trouble with CC, invest 45 telekinesis and 25 metathermics for imprint/cryostasis. Seeker googles is not a good choice because you always critically hit those trapped foes with deadly snares. Smart ones affect both skill attack and special bolts.
- With 110 chem skill you can make powerful MKIII blobtrap for practical battle and high-end chemgun for money, it's still okay (tho I think it's better to have both mediocre Tailoring/Chemistry). But 110 bio doesn't make any sense, you can only create Regen Mixture with crafting bonus (you can't use it while in DC), but SS drug? Pass. IMO it might be better to boost your bio skill to 130 effective after entering DC around Lv18~20, before that, 80 for bullhead is enough for most part of Underrail.
My personal tweak:
P.S. Cut Merchantile to 50 if you want something much better, and get Huxkey.
Thanks, i know that i can add scopes but they do not offset the decrease of precision due to the continuous increase in required skill: atm, with 10 perc and a <50ql rifle, maxed skill at 11th level, i often have from 30 to 50% chance to hit a target inside optimal range.This sounds like a lighting problem.
Try using a flare/torch/Molotov/other light source on your target, or some NVGs. I prefer NVGs, but they have some stiff drawbacks, depending on your build.
Alternatively, if your target is well lit and you still have trouble hitting them, it's possible your perception is too low.
Finally, if you have a 10+ PER build and NVGs and you're still at 50% CTH with maxed skills, try playing on something less than DOMINATING. Dominating is completely unbalanced with enemy stat/skill scaling...
