Fastest way to acquire an assault rifle?

[Dizzy]

Does anyone know the quickest way to get a hold of an assault rifle?
I have a fun idea for my 3rd run I'd like to try.

What is the soonest possible point in time you can get one?

[Davinrarre]

Um, you can get one in GMS, the bandit leader in the lowest level has an AR.  Otherwise I think you can randomly find assault rifles around the map sections near SGS in boxes that need hacking to access.  Ofc the SGS armory sells a 20 mech frame but since you need 30 mechanics to fit a 7.62 barrel I think it might be faster to clear out GMS and loot the AR.

[Dizzy]

Um, you can get one in GMS, the bandit leader in the lowest level has an AR.  Otherwise I think you can randomly find assault rifles around the map sections near SGS in boxes that need hacking to access.  Ofc the SGS armory sells a 20 mech frame but since you need 30 mechanics to fit a 7.62 barrel I think it might be faster to clear out GMS and loot the AR.

Yeah, I am going to go for a "No Death" speed-run, assault build is my best bet for speed and sustain.

Thanks for the reply!!

Know if there is an AR in the new areas for this patch, which might allow for an even earlier one?

[Wildan]

There is a guaranteed AR in the Under Passage #4 below the Warehouse Block. After you kill those first 3 bandits which demand Jack Quicksilver his package head right down into the Under Passage #1 (very first entrance on the western wall): http://www.underrail.com/wiki/index.php?title=File:Lup-a1.png

There go straight to north through the northern passage and you'll get to Under Passage #4: http://www.underrail.com/wiki/index.php?title=File:Lup-a4.png
The way further up north is blocked but to the right you'll see two fence doors. The second one is locked with 50 difficulty. For an AR or AR/Sniper character that's usually too high because you'll likely have your DEX dumped to 3. To unlock it with MkII lockpicks you would need atleast 10 DEX (or 9 + 1 from eel sandwich from the cantina) and Level 5 (reachable at that point).

So it's probably not an option unless you're actually an SMG guy but no worries, just head from Under Passage #1 to #2 (most northern exit that leads to east): http://www.underrail.com/wiki/images/f/fc/Lup-a2.png
On the east end there is a locked room (easy lock) with the burning barrel and the guy there always has an AR. just make sure to start combat manually before crossing that second fence into the room or you'll have to roll initiative against him. Before heading there you'll have to deal with a pistol guy with a possibly good tactical vest. Make sure to initiate combat manually before stepping into that first intersection. His vest is usually good enough to keep for GSM compound.

If you're good on money and guns you can sell them in Junkyard, like when you looted a moded 9mm or .44 pistol on your search for Newton in the abandoned warehouse. Just sail to Junkyard from SGS docs (or go by foot and sneak past the rathounds/psi bugs) and head to the weapons dealer. With your accumulated weapons you should be able to afford a good AR (most likely better than those from Under Passage.

[Dizzy]

There is a guaranteed AR in the Under Passage #4 below the Warehouse Block. After you kill those first 3 bandits which demand Jack Quicksilver his package head right down into the Under Passage #1 (very first entrance on the western wall): http://www.underrail.com/wiki/index.php?title=File:Lup-a1.png

There go straight to north through the northern passage and you'll get to Under Passage #4: http://www.underrail.com/wiki/index.php?title=File:Lup-a4.png
The way further up north is blocked but to the right you'll see two fence doors. The second one is locked with 50 difficulty. For an AR or AR/Sniper character that's usually too high because you'll likely have your DEX dumped to 3. To unlock it with MkII lockpicks you would need atleast 10 DEX (or 9 + 1 from eel sandwich from the cantina) and Level 5 (reachable at that point).

So it's probably not an option unless you're actually an SMG guy but no worries, just head from Under Passage #1 to #2 (most northern exit that leads to east): http://www.underrail.com/wiki/images/f/fc/Lup-a2.png
On the east end there is a locked room (easy lock) with the burning barrel and the guy there always has an AR. just make sure to start combat manually before crossing that second fence into the room or you'll have to roll initiative against him. Before heading there you'll have to deal with a pistol guy with a possibly good tactical vest. Make sure to initiate combat manually before stepping into that first intersection. His vest is usually good enough to keep for GSM compound.

If you're good on money and guns you can sell them in Junkyard, like when you looted a moded 9mm or .44 pistol on your search for Newton in the abandoned warehouse. Just sail to Junkyard from SGS docs (or go by foot and sneak past the rathounds/psi bugs) and head to the weapons dealer. With your accumulated weapons you should be able to afford a good AR (most likely better than those from Under Passage.

Thanks so much! +REP

[eLPuSHeR]

I have made several builds but never tried an AR one. Can anyone point me to the advantages of doing so over an SMG build? It seems for me that AR are currently underpowered mainly due to the lack of specific AR feats. I know SMGs have crappy base damage but with careful planning thy can be pretty devastating, i.e, doing two or three bursts per round, require little strength to use (except for long bursts), etc.

[Sanger]

Advantages of AR are pretty simple, you don't need to spend anything on dexterity or agility to maximise effectiveness. For anyone without dexterity/agility ARs will be better in pretty much all cases. Thus an AR specialist can easily afford to get 8 strength and full perception, take full auto and use metal armour, and spend the rest on whatever they like, i.e. constitution and intelligence. SMG specialists conversely can never really have enough ability points - they need 6 agility for spec ops, 7 strength for full auto, full dexterity and full perception. They don't get enough for all of this so they need to sacrifice in one area or another and generally have nothing left over for anything else.

[eLPuSHeR]

Thanks. I usually go the stealth/light armor route...

[player1]

Sanger explained it right.

For exame, for my Psi/Firearm build I was pondering should I go for SMG or assault rifles, and rifles win due to lower minimum stat allication.

Assault rifles minimum:
STR 7
PER 6

SMG minimum:
STR 3 or 7
DEX 6 or 7
AGI 6
PER 6

Assault rifles won due to lower stat requrement, so I could invest in INT and WILL for crafting.

[eLPuSHeR]

Indeed. But I have a fixation to pick all locks and such... 

[player1]

I'm still doing it mostly ok with my DEX 3. Mechanics synergy helps.

[Sanger]

Plus if you take 7 intelligence for crafting feats you get a nice bonus to hacking that you lack with your invariably int-free dex/agility character, so it's six of one, half a dozen of the other really.

[Dizzy]

Indeed. But I have a fixation to pick all locks and such... 

I have this same problem hahaha.

[eLPuSHeR]

I may probably give a shot at this build. I like testing different builds.