Author Topic: Vivian - A mildly disappointing ending to an interesting character arc  (Read 2268 times)

shadynasty

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So, potential spoilers ahead. Read at your own peril.

I just replayed the JKK quest line on a new character, and I forgot how disappointed I was with the end of Vivian's story. At no point can you talk to her father, the engineer, and bring up that you met his daughter. Once she is gone, she is just gone. It almost seems like there wasn't enough time and so the story just got cut short, which is understandable with so much other stuff going on in the game.

I have a simple solution, if a little morbid. Why can't we find Vivian's body somewhere after she disappears? Like down in the core city sewers, or at the bottom of the elevator shaft that we fell into for that quest? I think it would be a really simple fix that would add a lot of severity to the JKK organization, and some closure for those of us that felt attached to Vivian.

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Re: Vivian - A mildly disappointing ending to an interesting character arc
« Reply #1 on: December 02, 2018, 10:47:35 pm »
At no point can you talk to her father, the engineer, and bring up that you met his daughter.
You can. He will simply say that you're mistaken and he never had a daughter, almost certainly because he disowned her for working for oligarchs, the very people he hates more that anything in the world for pretty much ruining his life. I can't think of a better reaction, it's perfect.

Once she is gone, she is just gone. It almost seems like there wasn't enough time and so the story just got cut short, which is understandable with so much other stuff going on in the game.
I don't think of it as unfinished. I think it's much better this way, like less is more in this case. You're right, she's just gone. There's no justice, no closure, nothing. Which makes it hit you that much harder and makes you use your imagination. It wouldn't have nearly the same effect if we just found her body somewhere. This might be a spoiler for you, but did you know that (highlight this if you want to know) Gunnar Edstrom, the CEO of JKK, is rumored to be involved in slave trade? Knowing that, what do you think might have happened to her? It's just a theory of course, but one you couldn't think about if we just found her body.




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Re: Vivian - A mildly disappointing ending to an interesting character arc
« Reply #2 on: December 02, 2018, 11:15:10 pm »
Yes, he does say he never had a daughter, which is understandable based on what she said about him.

I think you make a good point. It was frustrating and disheartening, much like the world of Underrail. I guess for me I would love to be strolling through DC and find a mangled woman's body with nothing but a JKK comm device on it, near the hanging rat elevator or something. But alas...

I actually did not know that! Did you learn that going through the praetorian or coretech quest lines?? I guess I need to pay more attention because, yeah, that's actually a really cool bit of story.

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Re: Vivian - A mildly disappointing ending to an interesting character arc
« Reply #3 on: December 02, 2018, 11:38:43 pm »
Just read through oculus database on Gunnar. Yikes.