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All crafting / Leather glove / Non-psi Build
« on: January 12, 2025, 02:12:02 pm »
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Hi,
My last hard difficulty playthrough got pretty much foiled the moment I stepped out of junkyard after getting the drill parts.
Tougher enemies, tougher environment. But me? I was soft, my character's flesh — soft, tender and so easy to bruise. 3 con. No dodge/evasion.
So I looked up a steam guide, got my brain working and made this:

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The build's pretty much the same idea as the one that I threw out previously, but with with the "holes" plugged.
Oh and after I added defence skills, I decided it should have every single crafting skill. All at once.
It took some corner cutting, thankfully the guide listed items, gear and upgrades that are supposedly possible to obtain in every playthrough.
So I can produce and use Leather gloves, armor, cloaking and protective fields, drugs, traps, high-explosives and etcetera of my own make.
While only having the minor inconvenience of needing drugs and a workbench for long term gear crafting.

But I never did quite grasp any other flaws it might have combat-wise besides lack of survivability. Didn't get too far last time.
So if anyone has experience with melee/fist builds, I would be grateful extremely to have my build's fatal flaws that I failed to notice myself brought out into the limelight.
I also have no idea about how to spend specialization points. Send help.

Thank you for your time.

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Re: All crafting / Leather glove / Non-psi Build
« Reply #1 on: January 12, 2025, 03:27:58 pm »
Looks pretty good, but I don't think you need INT to be higher than 6-7 or so even with a crafting focus, you don't use it for any feats, and for crafting requirements you can get a workbench or chems. You can probably use those points to make your starting DEX/AGI higher.
For feats Expertise may be useful if you're not sure what feats to get at later levels.
As for spec points, if i'm not wrong Unarmed/Fist will get more crit damage bonus from the Cheap Shots spec than from the Critical Power spec, worth checking anyway.

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Re: All crafting / Leather glove / Non-psi Build
« Reply #2 on: January 12, 2025, 09:42:09 pm »
I ended up adding so much INT because I got bottlenecked by total skill points and had to cut dodge/evasion, melee or stealth.
DEX is already where I want it at, 17 so I reduce a 12 AP attack to 7 and then to 4 with lightning punches + tabis.
Taking one point away for AGI's sake is a maybe.
As for the drugs/crafting bonus, I actually made it with both in mind as far as the crafting + mercantile! (except for chemistry and biology, don't want to go back every time I need more grenades)
Maybe I'm overshooting with those values?

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And you are indeed not wrong about spec points, cheap shots is more efficient! I've made a sheet comparing them and even included reckless. It's definitely better value. Reckless was also pretty good but using crit chance buffs would probably be better to avoid the crit vulnerability, so something like 10/10 cheap shots crit damage and 5/10 critical power

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Re: All crafting / Leather glove / Non-psi Build
« Reply #3 on: January 20, 2025, 09:28:03 am »
Status update: I got dominated

Here's a revised version, key points being:
1. Fist weapons don't measure up compared to knives for an extended period of time, moved their feats further down.
2. I overinvested into INT, no reason not to pump DEX until the cap when Hypercerebrix and crafting bonuses exist.
3. I have combo, fancy footwork and evasion, so I dropped sprint and evasive maneuvers in favor of escape artist and opportunist.

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