Shattering without Cryogenic Induction possible???

[lewis_cb]

Hi,

I get I need Cryogenic Induction to shatter after Cryostasis.

But what about Cryoliquid pistols? Do they allow shattering without it? with it?
same condition of hitting for 50% HP or more to shatter?

[TheAverageGortsby]

Proving a negative is always a futile effort, but I'm fairly sure you cannot shatter frozen targets except with the psi ability. I know that my sledgehammer build used all manner of traps, and could get huge crits on targets frozen by the cryo mines.  Never shattered a one.

Freeze is nevertheless probably my favorite debuff to inflict on enemies, since it's easy to have available (pistols, mines, psi) and doesn't provide an immunity period like fear and stun do.

[reinhark]

Proving a negative is always a futile effort, but I'm fairly sure you cannot shatter frozen targets except with the psi ability. I know that my sledgehammer build used all manner of traps, and could get huge crits on targets frozen by the cryo mines.  Never shattered a one.

Freeze is nevertheless probably my favorite debuff to inflict on enemies, since it's easy to have available (pistols, mines, psi) and doesn't provide an immunity period like fear and stun do.

I am pretty sure I shattered rathound few days ago. Test them multiple times on low health enemies with max level characters. (using xbow)

As for original question... I never used freezing pistol before. I will check later when I get the parts for it.

[Bruno]

The shattering can be done by anything that deals >50% (mech/freeze damage) of remaining health it seems.

At least my cryo+sledge psi hammer guy got to shatter quite a few icicles with super slam. (He was too weak against enemy psi unfortunately)

But for shatter to work, you obviously need the feat. The interesting question is if, after you have cryogenic induction, shatter work with pistols/traps.

It would be fun to set a cryotrap, the break enemy like the Terminator with a sledge super slam.

[lewis_cb]

Proving a negative is always a futile effort, but I'm fairly sure you cannot shatter frozen targets except with the psi ability. I know that my sledgehammer build used all manner of traps, and could get huge crits on targets frozen by the cryo mines.  Never shattered a one.

Freeze is nevertheless probably my favorite debuff to inflict on enemies, since it's easy to have available (pistols, mines, psi) and doesn't provide an immunity period like fear and stun do.

I am pretty sure I shattered rathound few days ago. Test them multiple times on low health enemies with max level characters. (using xbow)

As for original question... I never used freezing pistol before. I will check later when I get the parts for it.

Yeah, it would be amazing if the pistol enabled shattering. I was thinking a 17dex brawler with Heavy Punch, Combo, Force Emission & spiked pneumatic gloves could CC and shatter all day.

[reinhark]

well shit. None of the merchants have cryogenic chem pistol collector. and I just rushed to get the drill parts.

They don't even have incendiary.. and they are more common than the cryo.

I don't have time to get far into the story atm, and I cannot test this atm. Sorry.

[lewis_cb]

No problem, thanks a lot! I'll try it myself if I can.
Which merchants sell it? Do you meet them in or before Core City? That's where I am atm.

[Fenix]

I'm fairly sure that you can shatter with any weapon as long as you meet requirements for it and feat that allows it.

[hilf]

Mechanics shop in Rail Crossing is a good place to buy chem guns components.
Fixer in Junkyard can sell them too.
I'd also check general stores in Foundry and CC as they sell all kind of stuff.

Shop offer gets upgraded at certain points in the story. I'm fairly sure first such point is completing drill parts quest.

[Styg]

Only frozen status applied through cryostasis allows shattering (providing you have the feat, of course.) Actually, there's one other specific situation where it can happen, but it's tied to a location.

[destroyor]

Only frozen status applied through cryostasis allows shattering (providing you have the feat, of course.) Actually, there's one other specific situation where it can happen, but it's tied to a location.

I'm guessing the walk in freezer where you get Butcher's Cleaver?

[Fenix]

Or facility with frozen muties.

[lewis_cb]

Only frozen status applied through cryostasis allows shattering (providing you have the feat, of course.) Actually, there's one other specific situation where it can happen, but it's tied to a location.

Hi,

Many thanks for the answers. Too bad then that you cannot shatter more than once every 8 turns.
Still, freezing 2-3 enemies for 2 turns per turn could be fun!