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Builds / Do I need sprint and strafe for TM trap sniper build

« on: November 03, 2024, 12:03:54 pm »

Here's a 6 AGI sprint + strafe  build
https://underrail.info/build/?HgUGBgMQAwfCoAA8AAAAAMKgS1AAemRaNhpkAAAARgAAQSsBOX8nAlN-M8KFSzUqwocWwrXCpDHfvA

5 STR for all sniper rifles except black arrow
6 DEX for trap expert to lay traps faster. Mostly QoL but it helps against patroling enemies
6 AGI for sprint and strafe, also gives bonus to stealth
3 CON because I will be stealthed 90% of the time
18 PER because it's a main stat
3 WIL because it's a TM build and 70 points in it is more than enough for me
7 INT for crafting and gun nut feat

Main idea is to lay lots of traps, including bear and incendiary ones to proc opportunist and ambush, then shoot someone to get attention (if they're not in a bright tile then I'll use snipe of aimed shot). Then run behind cover and waith for enemies to get trapped, then walk in thei line of sight and start shooting. Repeat untill everything is dead. Also I'll use snipe for enemies who can't be critted or recieve lower crit damage.

This build is based around idea that I can reliebly move and shot to abuse line of sight and traps, but I don't want to spend hours to find out that it doesn't work as I wanted.

Also what's better, taking snipe and forget about crit damage feats to have more feats to spare, or taking sharpshooter and ambush?

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Builds / 5 shotgun builds and questions about leading shot and stealth

« on: November 01, 2024, 06:15:48 pm »

Here are non comnat shotgun builds, so 5 STR is more than enough.

3 DEX Shotgun
https://underrail.info/build/?HgUDCgMPAwfCoAAAAADCoMKgAEtaAABkZAooZAAAAEYAAFArJDnCsFPCkMKPR8KYGV0xKsKHJ8K1wqTCl9-8

5 DEX Shotgun
https://underrail.info/build/?HgUFBwMQAwfCoEsAAMKgwqAAUFoAAGRaCihkAAAARgAAUCs5JMKwU8KWwpAqwphdMRkewocnwrXCpMKX374

6 DEX Stealth Shotgun
https://underrail.info/build/?HgUFBwMQAwfCoEsAAMKgwqAAUFoAAGRaCihkAAAARgAAUCs5JMKwU8KWwpAqwphdMRkewocnwrXCpMKX374

3 INT 3 WILL 10 AGI 6 DEX No Psi Shotgun
https://underrail.info/build/?HgUGCgMQAwPCoABGAADCoMKgAABaWgDCh3MPPMKHAAAAAAAAWiQ5wrAWwpbCkEfCmMKDGTFhJx7CtcKkwpffvA

Weird 10 CON 6 AGI No Psi Shotgun
https://underrail.info/build/?HgUDBgoOAwXCoABfAAA8wqAAVV9GAG5uKG5uAAAAAAAASzliwrAkwpDCj2PCmB4fCDEnUMK1wqTCl9-8

Shotguns require good positioning so they must have enough AGI to move around, agility have good synergy with dodge/evasion and blitz + TM combo. Also shotguns use PER as their stat so to get 10 AGI 10 PER you need to sacrifice DEX among other stats, and only shotgun feat that requires DEX is Leading Shot.

LS is very useful against nimble enemies like frogs for example, but does it really worth lower PER or no Blitz?

Also if you have high AGi it will be a good idea to take stealth as well, but if you start stealthed you can't get enough MP even with sprint to use blitz fully, also with high enough dodge/evade plus initative it isn't needed. Or is it?

Here's a build that sacrifices PER and it's only 14
https://underrail.info/build/?HgUGCgMMAwfCoABaAADCoMKgAFBQAABkWgooZAAAAEYAAFArJDnCsBbClsKQR8KYwoMqXVMZJ8K1wqTfvA

Main idea of this build is high Initiative, Dodge/Evasion and lots of MP an AP. Because of it there's no need for stealth.
I think that this build is the best one but I need your opinion guys.

Here's a 6 DEX 6 AGI 7 INT and MAX PER build:
https://underrail.info/build/?HgUGBgMQAwfCoABaAAAAwqDCjEtQAABkWgooZAAAAEYAAFArJDnCsBbClsKQKsKYwoVdUzEnwofCtcKkwpffvA

Basically it's a build that relies on stealth and evade instead of everything in previous build, but has 18 PER.

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Builds / Question about crossbow builds

« on: October 28, 2024, 05:54:36 pm »

Usually I played as traps+crossbows but recently I thought about replacing deadly snares and traps with ambush and blitz.

My old build was something like this:
https://underrail.info/build/?HgMHBgMQAwgAAADCoAAAwqDCoEZBAHNaUDdGWgAAAEYAAF8rJiciMDk4woAqTGpLwoXCh03CtcKkMeKjsQXip74K37w

It is heavely relies on traps to proc crits, but negates it with high crafting skills and lockpicking/hacking amd mercantile. Basically a classical traps + crossbow build.

Now I have 2 variants of my new build

First one is 5 DEX strafe variant:
https://underrail.info/build/?HgMFCgMPAwcAACrCoADCoMKgwqBGUAAAX1A8NVoAAABGAAAAK38iOScCOEcqasKFwoBLJDHCtcKkwofip5cD4qe-CuKwkALfvA

Because of slightly lower INT this build is kinda starved for skills, so no mercantille.  Also it has 17 PER instead of 18. This build allows to shoot faster, harder and kite enemies. lack of disable via bear traps can be cowered by shock bolts and crawler poison, plus high dodge/evade helps

Second variant is 3 DEX without strafe
https://underrail.info/build/?HgMDCgMQAwgAAADCoADCoMKgwqBLAAAAWlA3RloAAABGAABuKwEnJDkCOEczasKASyrChTHCtcKkwoffvA

This build isn't as skill hungry as previous one and have even higher damage because strafe was replaced with sharpshooter. But lack of strafe is botering me.

I need your opinion on what variation of this new build will work better on practice. For example is strafe more important than sharpshooter? Or is blitz worth not using traps? Or is it efficent ot have hight MP without strafe?

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Builds / Made 4 GL builds and in need of opinions

« on: October 28, 2024, 12:12:36 pm »

Here are links
No AR use
https://underrail.info/build/?HgYDCgMOAwfCoAAmAADCoMKgwqBLAAAAWlA-I1oAAABGAABkKyQ5UyfDoypHwofChcOiKDFLXcK1wqQP37w

Low AR use
https://underrail.info/build/?HgYDCgMOAwfCoAAAAADCoMKgwqBLAAAAWlo-I1oAAABGAABkKyQ5OybDoydHU0nDosKFKsKHMcK1wqQC4qeXA-KnqgPisZYE4r-kBd-8

Heavy AR use
https://underrail.info/build/?HgcDCgMNAwfCoAAAAADCoMKgwqBQAAAAWlBGI1oAAABGAAB9KyQ5OyYVJ0dKScOiwoUqwodLwrXCpDHfvA

Low SMG use
https://underrail.info/build/?HgYDCgMOAwfCoAAZAADCoMKgwqBVAAAAWlBGI1oAAABGAABfKyQ5OybDozdHKsKFw6LChydTS8K1wqQx4qWfBeKloAXip5cD4r-kAt-8

All of those builds are dodge/evasion/stealth oriented and use grenade launchers, TM and blitz.

First one is pure GLs and mostly about kiting or blowing everything up in 1 turn.

Second one is pretty much the same but ARs used as support weapon for taking out low hp or targets that are too close.

Third one is just an AR build but sometimes I use grenade launcher instead of just throwing grenades.

Last one is something betwee 1st and 2nd, main idea is to supress using lowest AP smg and then start shooting 40mm grenade launcher.

These builds are purely theoretical and I need your input on how those builds would work in actual game and which one is best.

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Builds / Grease hammer build | Sledgehammer, nimble tin can, no psi

« on: October 06, 2023, 12:54:41 pm »

Firstly, this build is named "Grease" hammer because you will be:

• Hard to kill
• Hard to hit
• Hard to run away from
• 400+ dmg from super slam alone

Here's a first iteration of this build: https://underrail.info/build/?HgsDCgoDAwYAPADCoMKgwqAAAAAAAG5aKFpfAAAAAADCoFAIJDlELQ1jVWBBRUcfGcKyfHHip4IC4qmiCOKrkAXfvw

Now explanation:
This is somewhat RP build, in a way that I don't want uncover any secrets or lore and just dominate everything through pure physical might.
Main idea of this build is being an unkillable pain train that makes people shit their pants, no second thought, no remorse, no cunning shit, just unstoppable greased brick wall of death.
Only weaknesses of this build are some immobilization effects, and resolve based effects.
 
Base stats:

• 3 dex, wil, per - aren't needed. Only useful feats that can be picked from them are escape artist and stoicism, but it's no psi full con build, so no will. I really want to take escape artist but it doesn't justify spending 4 points in dex
• 6 int for armor sloping to run and dodge more freely in heavy armors, also helps with crafting
• 12 con for survivabulty, superslam damage and other cool feats
• 10 agi for dodging, evasion and mobility
• 11 str for sledges and their feats

Skills:

• no psi schools because no psi con build
• full melee and 60 throwing to don't drop grenades on yourself
• No subtefuge because we're too cool and chonky for that
• Crafting skills for making best armor, weapons and drugs
• Intimidation for further survivabilty and RP
• Mercantily for getting super steel if needed

Feats:

• Mobilty feats: nimble, sprint, hit and run, armor sloping, body weight training
• Survivabilty feats: conditioning, yell, juggernaut, last stand, uncanny dodge, increased con, tempered:electrisity
• Attack feats: pummel, dirty kick, super slam

Equipment:

• Head: Shaded metal helmet, Praetorian Lawgiver, Tchortist Bioscrubber (preferable),
  Aegis Sec-trooper Helmet
• Body: Any armor works, but we have feats for metal armor so it's prefferable, just not tungesteen and not untill we get armor sloping feat. Personally prefer full super steel
• Belt: lifting belt
• Feet: super steel boots, pig/cavehopper/bison/siphoner leather boots/tabis, personally prefer siphoner tabi boots
• Weapon: Sledgehammer , Use spikes for main sledge and use super slam with it for 4xSuper slam, for secondary use shock hammer for aoe

This build is based on Tytyger's Dominating Dominator

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Builds / Psi-Sword ninja build (featuring Ryu Hayabusa from Ninja Gaiden)

« on: March 27, 2023, 04:51:58 pm »

Recently I've discovered Ninja Gaiden and thought that Ryu-like build would be pretty cool, so here we are.

https://underrail.info/build/?FAcPBgMDBQYAPABuQVAeSzIAABkAAAAAAABGRgAAACs5JDHCjGHCiypRXMKNHADisogF378
If someone unfamiliar with Ryu Hayabusa here's what he uses in game:

• Sword as main weapon
• Throwables as secondary
• Ninjutsu as ultimate (usually some flavor of fireball)
• Ninja speed and acrobatics

Now how to adapt this to Underrail?
Sword and throwing are self-explanatory.
For ninjutsu I use MT, and for speed TM and bio for adrenaline and other drugs, for acrobatics I use dodge/evasion. And some stealth because ninja.
Also we need mandatory underrail crafting and lockpicking/hacking skills

As you see we have our skills spread on too much categories, so how do we balance it out?
As said above our main focus is Swords, then Throwing, then psi, then dodge/evade, then lockpicking/hacking.
After we get enough dodge/evade and lockpicking/hacking only then we can start investing in our crafting skills, except chemistry because we have methathermics so grenades will be used less.

Now time for feats:

• Sprint - it's a melee build with 6 AGI
• Nimble - dodge/evasion + more MP
• Recklessness - we don't use EW and go for crits
• Flurry - it's a melee SWORD build
• Sure step -  ninjas don't step on their caltrops
• Decapitate - because Ryu used this alot, also it's cool
• Premeditation - to use one of our psi abilties in a pinch
• Hypothermia -  softening targets up via cryo orb. Can be replaced with Pyro or dirty kick
• Fatal throw - more AP
• Ripper - works well with Fatal throw, decapitation and shatter
• Onlaught - SWORD build
• Weaponsmith - more crits = good

Now we have our Ninja guy, but ninja is still pretty weak without his tools.
EQUIPMENT:

• Armor - every stealth armor with less than 15% penalty is good enought untill we find Infused Rathound Leather
• Boots - Siphoner or black cloth Tabi
• Head - psi headband with additional slot, or one that increases MT abilities
• Main weapon - sword (Red dragon for fun)
• Secondary - thrownig glove
• Belt - doctor pouch

Psi abilities:

• Psycho-temporal Contraction - I'm fast as fuck boiiiiii!!
• Cryostasis - disable, gets replaced by stasis later
• Stasis - best for long fights or disabling one strong enemy
• Pyrokinesis - early nuke, gets replaced by Cryo orb
• Cryokinetic Orb - nuke + softening targets up via hypothermia
• Exothermic Aura - for molotov or stasis combo, also helps against crawlers.
• Cryokinesis - loooooong range where throwing knives don't reach, also hypothermia.

That's pretty much it. I won't be showing lvl30 build because every build gets OP after 20th level.

Please share your opinions and suggestions, preferably ones that don't go too far from original idea.[/list]

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General / Heavy weapons and modular armor

« on: June 03, 2022, 11:52:33 am »

I don't know what Styg's opinion about these things, but personally I love to RP as heavy machine gunners, and seeing new armor and equipment system makes me think about how many new mechanics can be implemented, especially when heavy weapon come in equation.
Most intresting idea is modular parts, like different mods for different armor parts which can enchance weapon capabilities, for example  installing ammo belts in torso part of metal armor, which will remove need for reloading but also will make armor much heavier and less protective because some plates were replaced by ammo belts. Or pretty much the same thing for rpgs and flamthrowers but also if torso armor get damaged enough or when attacked by special skill, fuel will spill out and rockets will explode.

Another examples I have are:

Reactive armors -- armor for meatallic/heavy aromr that can protect the wearer and damage attackers. Reactive tank armor that negates damage that deals quite big % of weares hp and deals heat/mechanical damage to melee attacker but destroys armor by a set amount. Tesla armor which deals damage around user but pretty heavy and flimsy compared to regular one.

Alternative to ractive armor, additional layer for elemental protection -- like hazmat/fireproof suit which defense relative to armor integrity. Or little shields for arms and legs for additional protection (basically adding more metal plates while crafting hand/leg armor).

Exotic upgrades like exo skeleton that makes armor weight less and makes burst fire more accurated when it's powered. Or sytems which can get rid of debuffs like being on fire or acid (aka built in extinguisher/shower). Or system that allows to use 1 drug without using any AP. Drawbacks are increased weight, decreased integrity and need to be powered.
 
I can go on and on about this, but I more interested in your opinion guys. What ideas you have about new armor system and what do you think about adding heavy weapons?

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Builds / Chemical Warfare Build

« on: June 06, 2021, 12:18:42 pm »

I wanted to break rules of geneva convention as much as I can.
Main idea was to trap all exits  from room with poisoned bear traps or acid chemical traps and gas it + toss some magnesium grenades or flashbangs.  I made this build just for that specific moment, but it came out much better than I thought.
Basicly with that build you can make any place into an absolute death trap and freely walk there while your enemies die painfully. Also works pretty well in frontal confrontation.

Starting stats: https://underrail.info/build/?AQUIBgMIAwcPAAAAAAAPDw8ADwAADw8PAAAAAAAAACdh378
Current stats at level 12: https://underrail.info/build/?DAUKBgMIAwhBHgAAAAAeNzcAKDI3NzcyAAAAAAAAFCcBFkDCkVZhMN-_
Current equipment:
Weapons: All kinds of chemical pistols, sometimes energy pistols.
Armor: Chemical Assault Unit Armor, Ancient rathound leather armor with insulating padding (when I use cryo grenades)
Head: Coretech tactical respirator
Boots: Black tabi boots
Also shitload of ALL kinds of traps and grenades.

Finally after 200h of different builds I found one that fits me and now I can finish the game.
I tried to use a lot of people's builds but I got bored pretty fast, so I made my own build and wanted to share it and get some  pointers.