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Underrail => Let's Plays => Topic started by: Tamior on December 25, 2018, 07:18:04 pm
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Welp, Expedition has finally arrived, so it's high time fore another permadeath run.
Going in blind (Well, blind to the DLC content, anyway).
https://www.twitch.tv/ouroboroses
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After trying it out yesterday, let's see if I can get to the end of Depot A tonight (with 0 reloads).
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Thanks for taking the time to do this. It's interesting to see how the changes to the economy influence he early game in particular.
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Done and done.
The VOD is there to see ( https://www.twitch.tv/videos/354593722 ), highlights:
1) Got to the end of depot A in 5 hours 30 mins real time (about 40 mins longer than usual). ("The end of Depot A" means I have the drill part in my inventory and I'm an the exist from depot A, so I can go to core city (etc) as soon as I desire.)
2) Got there with 1 technical reload, and that only happened because I zoned out completely and did something VERY stupid. So effectively it would have been 0 reloads if I payed a tiny bit more attention.
3) Doors abused to escape from combat with robots/animals/beetles: zero. (Not even in the Newton warehouse was I forced to resort to such lowly tactics).
4) Siphoners still can't swim. I know it wasn't supposed to be part of the build, but I still find it REALLY questionable that siphoners can't cross water.
5) Force field is still overpowered as hell.
Now for the economy: it's really noticeable, but not really to the point where I had to alter my game significantly.
The actual effects are:
- couldn't afford to buy psionic headband from Ezra early on
- no longer used boat to go to/from junkyard
- barely got enough cash to craft psionic vest before the newton warehouse
- consumables (adrenaline, etc) are now MUCH harder to afford
- needed to plan all purchases ahead to stay within budget, so no more "let's get this slightly better item just-in-case"
- quest rewards feel MUCH more impactful (about 4x more impactful, heh)
Now, I have to notice that I played as stealth tranquility psion.
This character is VERY light on consumables, but pretty heavy on initial investment into learning psi abilities. Quest rewards definitely give you enough to afford psionic training.
I am, however, not sure if psychosis psion build would not get REALLY tight on consumables given the fact it relies on psi booster to a MUCH higher degree.
P.S. Overall, I really like the changes to the economy. Makes me feel like starting with maxed out mercantile is now actually viable. The fact that these changes limits access to fast travel, however, is a bit... questionable.
P.P.S. As for food changes, everything looks really great, but I don't think they have had a major impact this early on for me (since I never relied on food buffs much previously). But it DOES feel like some on the new buffs will be VERY useful later on.
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I've got a no-crafting gunslinger up to 16th since the new update. It's still not bad when you don't really need money much; I've got 9k charons and I quit making merchant runs before finishing depot A. I'm sure it'll be hellish on early-game crafters.
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I think I'll do another quick run from the start, see how reproducible the result is in general and if starting with 20 effective mercantile will change things significantly.
Starting in a few minutes: https://www.twitch.tv/ouroboroses
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Was fun to watch, especially psi-bug part, first attempt. :D
Minor thing - you can buy batteries from Jonas at reduced price, and you can take 1 battery from shelf near Harold, it's always there.
Also it would be more safe to use no armor or at least hopper leather armor for early stealth parts.
Instead of that meek dead body you have found, there could be really, really BAD things - I met them once.
So for no-saves playthrough you would probably want to use boat after all.
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Also it would be more safe to use no armor or at least hopper leather armor for early stealth parts.
Stealth penalty from basic armor is pretty minor. I just see it as largely irrelevant.
Instead of that meek dead body you have found, there could be really, really BAD things - I met them once.
Pretty sure you can still see them BEFORE they aggro you (if you are careful).
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Well, time for another attempt. Starting in a few minutes.
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Not minor if Agi score is low.
Also, yes you can see them before they detect you, but only if you ready.
If you not ready, you won't stop in time.
I mean Timon and Poomba or somehting liek that, lol nice couple.
You solved a problem with outpostsandsaved game, and next video you started anew - why?
edit: missed the beginning sorry.
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You solved a problem with outpostsandsaved game, and next video you started anew - why?
I just feel like doing 3-4 restarts to see how the very early game (until GMS or so) handles in this experimental, and what can be further optimized.
The reason I'm so interested in early game is that it's the most RNG-dependent part and you also don't have the money to purchase all the necessary equipment.
I mean, so far I've established a way to get to lvl 5 before Newton warehouse with 0 reliance on oddities from critters, or to get the "knife" quest done at lvl 4 with little to no risk, thus getting a chance to buy good psionic headband, etc.
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Btw you could try to steal fro electronics merchant from Junkyard - with stealthy gear and food it could be possible even yearly on, so maybe you could afford that early shield.
I think shelf closest to door is absolutely doable, and two next to guard is somewhat possible, at least one of them.
Also can steal coins form Kareem's bar, from footlocker and food. Can steal oddity at the entrance of Junkyard.
Also yeah, psychokinesis abilities are loud, so they attract enemies.
Without doors, maybe traps could help? Like good ol' bear traps.
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Yea, I guess grabbing the extra oddities in the junkyard is not a bad idea at all, thanks for the tip.
I also think it's probably a good idea to use 15 point on biology to get effectively infinite supply of adrenaline.
Aslo, time for another attempt. Starting in a few minutes.
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There are hidden oddities in game, explore your enviroment.
At least 3 of them in Foundry.
Take all - A.
To see your actual stealth score - C.
Dude your itemisation and inventory is полный пиздец really.
Pain to watch it. Tonns of junk, unsold loot... :-[
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Dude your itemisation and inventory is полный пиздец really.
Pain to watch it. Tonns of junk, unsold loot... :-[
Sorting the loot and going around selling it would take a pretty long time. Time that isn't very fun for me as a player and even less fun to watch.
So, basically, poor inventory management is the lesser of two evils for me.
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Agree, but you didn't sell things you was already carrying around and can sell...
Also you losing time too because of cluttered inventory.
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Eh, maybe I am, but it's really hard for me to find the perfect balance for time spend managing inventory.
Anyway, had some extra fun tonight with Balor and TC abilities:
https://www.twitch.tv/videos/360618357
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Time to speedhack-maxx
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Yeah, saw that moment - was pretty dangerous.
Survived by a miracle. )
Btw you can use these boots striders you have found, they are faster than tabis I think.
Dude that was riski move with mutants... They could easily oneshot you.
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I've got a no-crafting gunslinger up to 16th since the new update. It's still not bad when you don't really need money much; I've got 9k charons and I quit making merchant runs before finishing depot A. I'm sure it'll be hellish on early-game crafters.
Could you please tell me about your character?
I am interested in builds for Dominating mode.
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I guess I can give you my build (stealth TQ psion), if you are interested in that.
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For a change, tonight I'm streaming some stealth non-psion trapper/crossbowman.
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Continuing the stealth non-psion trapper/crossbowman run tonight. Zero reloads so far, and hopefully frame drops will not be an issue this time.
Update: I wasn't ready, heh. Got a few dozen reloads just trying to figure out how to handle beetles without abusing the door. Also, I'm surprised how LOW the damage output on the crossbow is. Getting a better crossbow seems really, really crucial early on.
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The time has come for another round! (of crossbow trapper)
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Depot A in 16 minutes on dominating with no combat.
https://www.twitch.tv/videos/398088441
Totally doable in about 5 minutes if you just beeline for it.
You need lockpicking 50, hacking 60 and some good stealth.
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Just for extra fun, tried doing depot A by just going straight to the circuit board.
With a bit of luck, it takes 5 minutes 23 seconds to do that:
https://www.twitch.tv/videos/398609044
So, yea, Depot A literally takes 5 minutes to complete (from entering it to the moment you walk away with the control board).
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More streaming tonight, mid-game stuff at lvl 14+, still 0 reloads.
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Featuring tonight:
Cuttlesnail of doom: https://www.twitch.tv/videos/404176559
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Foundry Beast on Dominating using nothing but psionic (no traps or grenades, etc): https://www.twitch.tv/videos/404187093
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Featuring tonight:
Cuttlesnail of doom: https://www.twitch.tv/videos/404176559
Haha, that cuttlesnail made it easier than on normal.
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You a literally the best "youtuber" that playing Underrail.
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Last vanilla run before Expedition hints:
https://www.twitch.tv/ouroboroses
Probably will not finish it before Monday, but still.
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Expedition has finally arrived, starting a new (blind) run with DLC enabled right now:
https://www.twitch.tv/ouroboroses
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Doing a new run with the latest update.
Permadeath, dominating, all the usual.
Got to lvl 12 so far.
Link, as usual: https://www.twitch.tv/ouroboroses
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Still streaming this build pretty regularly.
Right now, for example.
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Got to lvl 20, finished arena fights.
Fun fact: for literally every fight I managed to craft equipment that made it impossible for the enemy to kill my character on the first turn irregardless of RNG.
Carnifex tanking tests, for example: https://www.twitch.tv/videos/519712403?t=12271s
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Checking out newest experimental right now with psion build from level 1.
Link, as usual: https://www.twitch.tv/ouroboroses
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Trying out the new build once again (from the start) today.
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Another day, another run.
Now with the final incarnation of the psi patch.