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Professor kidnaping event happening twice
« on: May 10, 2020, 01:57:12 pm »
So don't know what happened exactly. I found the mole and reported him around the time they send me to find a way to implant the chip from the arm. Pirate ambush was killed, kidnapping prevented. Then I spend large amount of time doing stuff before proceeding with the quest. First I cleared Horticulture Center, LemCo waterfront, port Crag and found but not towed the sub. Then I cleared port Cato of pirates and killed any pirate I saw in adjacent territories, no bugs.

Then I cleared Nexus of Technology, and after it Health Center. I believe the bug happened after I took Microchip Implant Encoder from Nexus of Technology before doing Health Center because after I returned from the rift selling stuff Ladelman suddenly bugged out and started his rant that Briggs suspects him of being the spy since he is from the south and refuses to trade, I didn't realize it back then but that was the point the game launched second kidnapping event. Now Briggs tells me that the pirates ambushed the camp despite that previously failed ambush still lying dead near his feet, and he says that they collapsed the tunnel but it's not collapsed.

Now I am stuck with rescue professor quest and I don't know what to do, I killed the pirates already, should I attempt to complete it anyway or will it break my save even further? I can upload the safe if needed.
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Re: Professor kidnaping event happening twice
« Reply #1 on: May 11, 2020, 10:55:15 am »
Yeah, something went wrong there for sure. The kidnapping is a delayed event that will trigger no matter how many quests you've done or in what order. It works on a timer, basically, and if it occurs within a dungeon it will wait for you to get out before you get a navcom call about the professor being kidnapped (which you didn't get, from my understanding). It then checks for certain conditions, and if, among other things, you found out the spy, then the kidnapping will not take place. I'd have to take a look at one of your earlier saves, preferably after you reported the spy and before the kidnapping occured, before I could figure out what went wrong, as it is probably something very specific.

Technically, the game should handle it if you just go on and rescue the professor from the pirates, and you won't have any game-breaking bugs afterwards. The tunnel will stay open (which is to your advantage, actually), and I'm not sure how the flavor dialog will behave, because now the npcs think you both prevented the kidnapping and rescued the professor, but nothing major beyond that. After all, we designed the expansion in such a way that it can be finished even if you slaughter every living soul in the Black Sea, but that's an extreme example, of course.

Alternatively, you could upload your newest save for my to try and fix it, but with that comes the chance of me messing things up even further.

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Re: Professor kidnaping event happening twice
« Reply #2 on: May 11, 2020, 07:48:41 pm »
Alternatively, you could upload your newest save for my to try and fix it, but with that comes the chance of me messing things up even further.
Thanks. I finished it already, it was immersion-breaking and unpleasant for sure but there were no further bugs at least. I just walked in an empty pirate base and talked with the professor who stood in cell with an open door...Got an extra jet key and some cash for my troubles.

I have a feeling that this bug will be a pain to track but I'm interested in a fix for further playthroughs.

Where should I upload the save? And what exactly, the whole folder?

Funny thing is that the closest save I have left I made to verify another bug, could you check it out too? It happens in that G4 area with a pirate shack. There is a weird area soundtrack transition that changes music depending on where you stand. It's pretty jarring and annoying and I don't remember hearing it happen somewhere else. Is it intended?


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Re: Professor kidnaping event happening twice
« Reply #3 on: May 12, 2020, 09:12:27 am »

Thanks. I finished it already, it was immersion-breaking and unpleasant for sure but there were no further bugs at least. I just walked in an empty pirate base and talked with the professor who stood in cell with an open door...Got an extra jet key and some cash for my troubles.

I have a feeling that this bug will be a pain to track but I'm interested in a fix for further playthroughs.

Where should I upload the save? And what exactly, the whole folder?

Well, glad it works now. You can upload the save to Dropbox, Google Drive, OneDrive, or any cloud service of your liking, and then you can post the link here or PM it to me. And yes, you need to copy your whole save folder from ...\Documents\My Games\Underrail\Saves.

About the G4 music, I've fixed that for the next update. It was intended, accomplished with a trigger that basically changes the music when you enter or leave it, but now that you've pointed it out, it doesn't really get the desired effect. We've used these triggers in a few places, but there they worked better, I guess. :D

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Re: Professor kidnaping event happening twice
« Reply #4 on: May 12, 2020, 03:52:32 pm »
About the G4 music, I've fixed that for the next update. It was intended, accomplished with a trigger that basically changes the music when you enter or leave it, but now that you've pointed it out, it doesn't really get the desired effect. We've used these triggers in a few places, but there they worked better, I guess. :D
Ayy, thanks!

https://drive.google.com/open?id=1eAc36abG1Axau3puMMfSj74XUyFaNPLE

I hope it will be easy to trigger...

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Re: Professor kidnaping event happening twice
« Reply #5 on: May 13, 2020, 11:01:05 am »
Found it. When going to sleep you can, under specific circumstances, fall into a dialog branch that explicitly sets the flag that the professor is kidnapped. It's a development leftover and was used for testing. I removed it, so following the next update this shouldn't be happening no more. Nasty little bugger. :D

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Re: Professor kidnaping event happening twice
« Reply #6 on: May 13, 2020, 08:51:52 pm »
Found it. When going to sleep you can, under specific circumstances, fall into a dialog branch that explicitly sets the flag that the professor is kidnapped. It's a development leftover and was used for testing. I removed it, so following the next update this shouldn't be happening no more. Nasty little bugger. :D
Thanks for the trivia, I like to read stuff like that. Nice kill!

PhrygianDominant you don't mind if post some extra minor bugs here? I don't want to make separate threads for every little thing.

So this probably fixed because no way I'm the first one to notice it but just to be sure, the H
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Re: Professor kidnaping event happening twice
« Reply #7 on: May 13, 2020, 08:55:48 pm »
Damn it, your forum is bugged too! Cuts off my message on the staff name. Apparently you can't just copy the name of the staff from the wiki and paste it here, unsupported language perhaps?

What I meant to say is that Hoddurform spear staff item card goes full screen for some reason.

Another bug is this infinite trap in camp defense. Usually, you can disarm them if they survive the attack but not this one

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Re: Professor kidnaping event happening twice
« Reply #8 on: May 15, 2020, 10:47:38 am »
Unsupported characters, yeah. Welcome to the club! :D

Anyway, the Hoddurform just has a very long description, and depending on the font size and the resolution you're playing on it can take up quite a lot of the screen. Nothing we can do about that atm.

Fixed the mine for the next update.