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STR Inmobilization/Entanglement immunity
« on: March 03, 2021, 08:36:44 am »
Lately I have been contemplating the big boys of Underrail, Industrial bots, Dreadnaughts and Naga Protectors being inmune to any sort of inmobilization, which makes sense due their size, weight and strenght. It makes sense.
I also saw how Fatso becomes inmune to entanglement the angrier he gets, due Adrenaline Rush pumping his STR to 20. Which also makes sense.

My idea is, what if the player character can become inmune to inmobilization so long s/he has 20 STR, be under the effects of drugs, gear or food. You lose inmobilization inmunity the moment your STR drops to 19 and below. This prospect is not entirely now, since having high STR will cut throwing net entanglement from 2 to 1, which makes sense.
And not to mention, there's nothing more anti-climatic than charging at Big T like a furious Bison under all drugs know by mankind, just to get completely shut down by acid entanglement.
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Re: STR Inmobilization/Entanglement immunity
« Reply #1 on: March 03, 2021, 12:44:57 pm »
Escape Artist is already there, tho. giving pure immunity is pretty insane

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Re: STR Inmobilization/Entanglement immunity
« Reply #2 on: March 03, 2021, 05:31:51 pm »
>Escape Artist is already there, tho
It really isnt, it's pretty hard to stay at 20 STR unless you have drugs like adrenaline or native cocaine, in which only lasts for a few turns, or SSD, which is very limited and hard to find. You can go 18 base STR and eat STR food wearing Rathound regalia, yes, but that will leave you super squeashy, so it's not like it's super OP.
Also 6 DEX is something most of hammer builds cannot afford.
>giving pure immunity is pretty insane
giving pure immunity is pretty insane
It really isnt
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Re: STR Inmobilization/Entanglement immunity
« Reply #3 on: March 08, 2021, 01:57:33 am »
Rathound regalia isn't as squishy as you might think if you invest on agi and having high dodge/evasion with decent shield emitter tbh. You don't need nimble because it already have 0 armor penalty.

But all in all, 20 STR doesn't really matter in grand scheme of things, because it's so late game, that it doesn't matter if you got tangled or not, just delayed your win.

IMO entanglement is very strong, not because the effect, but who usually used it. Acid dog deals huge acid DoT on acid entanglement + stacking acid pool, and lurkers assassin have Opportunist, nasty bleed stacking, and crippling strike. They're mostly the one that will kill you in 1-2 turn after you got entangled. Also some enemies are smart enough to step back after entangled you, so you can't counter with melee attack

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Re: STR Inmobilization/Entanglement immunity
« Reply #4 on: March 08, 2021, 08:46:26 am »
Rathound regalia isn't as squishy as you might think if you invest on agi and having high dodge/evasion with decent shield emitter tbh. You don't need nimble because it already have 0 armor penalty.

But all in all, 20 STR doesn't really matter in grand scheme of things, because it's so late game, that it doesn't matter if you got tangled or not, just delayed your win.

IMO entanglement is very strong, not because the effect, but who usually used it. Acid dog deals huge acid DoT on acid entanglement + stacking acid pool, and lurkers assassin have Opportunist, nasty bleed stacking, and crippling strike. They're mostly the one that will kill you in 1-2 turn after you got entangled. Also some enemies are smart enough to step back after entangled you, so you can't counter with melee attack

Thats not how it works. Once you get acid entangled, you will keep getting entangled over and over again, since almost every subsecuent acid attack 'refreshes' the acid entanglement, see: Tchort acid tentacle and Acid Hunters
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Re: STR Inmobilization/Entanglement immunity
« Reply #5 on: March 09, 2021, 04:20:56 pm »
Regular mutants have 20 str.  Hunchbacks therefor do too.  Strongmen as well, I imagine.  It's not just strength, it's the size/mass (and in the case of industrial bots, their tank treads). 
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