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What is Your Build???
« on: June 01, 2014, 04:19:56 pm »
I have tried some builds and been successful so far. The one i'm currently using is a burst SMG/AR character, having no issues killing anything... way better than my Crit Pistol/Psychokinesis character (thou i might rebuild and try)

STR 7
DEX 10
AGI 5
CON 3
PER 9
WIL 3
INT 3

Skills:
Guns
Dodge
Evasion
Stealth
Hacking
Lockpick
Mechanics
Electronics
Biology (20)

First Get Biology to 20 for bandages, Doctor Perk
2 Stats to Agi for Interloper

Essential Perks:

Aim Shot
Doctor
Full Auto
Suppressive Fire
Spec Ops
Interloper
**Ambush/Opportunist

What build are you guys using?  8)
Anyone got a solid crossbow build?

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Re: What is Your Build???
« Reply #1 on: June 02, 2014, 12:29:13 pm »
My most successful build up till now, Dexterity Pistol-Knife build (at lvl 20):

Base:
STR 5
DEX 12
AGI 6
CON 4 (5)
PER 10
WIL 3
INT 5

Skills:
Guns 110 (166)
Throwing 25 (42)
Melee 110 (184)
Dodge 35 (43)
Evasion 35 (43)
Lockpicking 70 (117)
Traps 10 (34)
Mechanics 110 (119)
Electronics 110 (119)
Chemistry 10 (15)
Biology 55 (60)
Tailoring 110 (119)
Persuasion 70 (66)
Mercantile 20 (35)

Feats:
Aimed Shot
Opportunist
Pack Rathound (not really necessary but I am a hoarder so I need this)
Sprint
Steadfast Aim
Doctor
Dirty Kick (can be replaced by a Taser)
Execute
Cheap Shots
Expose Weakness
Sharpshooter
(Also works good with Taste For Blood (requires different knife type), Nimble or Kneecap Shot)

Equipment (core):
Seeker Goggles
High Frequency Shield
Riot Armor with Burrower Shield
Bullet Strap Belt
.44 Hammerer
Dagger (preferable Tungsten or TiChrome)
PigLeather Tabi

With this build you can shoot 2 times with the .44 in one turn (because of AP reduction) doing massive damage (especially if it crits or when using execute). Besides from that you have moderate amount of defense and above average movement points. The knife attacks quite strong too because of the high crit chance/damage, you can even take down medium-heavy armored opponents with the knife!

You can also spot most traps (high PER + traps)
Choose for SGS in the Junkyard and access to some other quests (persuasion)
Craft high quality weapons, amour, shields etc (Mechanics, Electronics, Tailoring)
Able to craft all medicine and mining TNT (Biology, Chemistry)

Also a fun build is pure strength (15 points at lvl20) sledgehammer mayhem + ice. I can shatter most enemy's when they at 300hp, its really fun :D
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Re: What is Your Build???
« Reply #2 on: June 02, 2014, 01:13:18 pm »
Well, here I am.

16 lvl
STR: 7
DEX: 12
AGI: 6
Con: 5
PER: 5
WIL: 3
INT: 5

Till 20 lvl I'll get 2 attribute points, so I wonder what be better to put it. +2 DEX, or +1 AGI and +1DEX or +1 INT? 7 AGI need for feat like Fancy Footwork and Interlooper, however I feel I can go without both.

Skills: Melee max (90 (158)), 50 (63) Dodge\Evasion, 80 (161\90) Stealth\Hacking, Lockpicking 51 (90), Meckanics\Electronics 85 (92), Tailoring 84 (91), Persuation 65(55).
Feats: Conditioning, Nimble, Snooping, Psi Empathy, Power Manadgment, Lightning Punches, Deflection, Cheap Shots, Wrestling, Combo, Expose Weakness.

I didn't know that Opportunist affect melee, or just mislead myself, anyway it will be good addition to my set.

 So far I have not experienced any difficulties. I can easily meleeing all, amounts of Incapasitate\Stun I can inflict in one round is amazing, but I didn't met yet large group with firearms, or Faceless.
Crawlers doesn't troubled me, maybe bloodsucker m***er frog only?

So the main question - would +2 DEX improove my figting capabilities much?
Right now unarmed punch consume 3 AP, with leather fist weapon - 5 AP (with Taby boots).
Would it 2 AP and 4 AP if DEX=14?

BTW Styg - great balancing.
I mean, I feel melee too strong (as usual :P), but it is fully viable build, which is incredible fun to play.
It's even more fun than PSI. ))))

PS Hm... It seems my DEX already 13 (my char is 16 lvl), so it will be DEX 14 or DEX 13 AGI 7.
« Last Edit: June 05, 2014, 08:09:34 am by Fenix »

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Re: What is Your Build???
« Reply #3 on: June 05, 2014, 12:44:00 pm »
STR 10
DEX 7
AGI 7
CON 5
PER 3
WIL 3
INT 5

throwing
melee
dodge
evasion
stealth
hacking
lockpicking
pickpocketing

essential start gear:
sledgehammer
motion goggles (to compensate for shitty detection)
any armour with a stealth bonus
any boots with a stealth bonus

later gear:
lifting belt
shock hammer
shock knife (to squeeze every last bit of damage out of leftover AP)
shield emitter
rathound regalia (seriously this thing is so OP)
tabi boots (when combined with regalia you can run from any situation that gets too bad. also dat stealth)

start feats:
conditioning
opportunist (because chance to stun with sledgehammer)

essential later feats:
reckless
paranoid (again for detection boost and to cancel out +3% chance to be crit)
dirty kick
cheap shots
(these last two synergise fantastically with opportunist)

other later feats:
interloper
bone breaker
cut throat
eviscerate

(these last two are great together but take such a long time to get together)

yeah so this build will tear through pretty much anything. pickpocketing hacking and lockpicking make you so goddamn rich. i feel like mercantile needs to do more and money just needs to be a lot harder to come by, my late game battery habit doesn't even dent my stacks and stacks of money. :D the build actually feels quite balanced, up until the point where you get the shock weapons. also the bonuses on the rathound regalia mean it should have a much lower defensive stat. i also think constitution should play a much bigger part in defence; with dodge and evasion so high on the off chance that anyone actually hits me 5 con and conditioning soak a good amount of it up. honestly the only thing more OP than this build is endgame psi imo.

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Re: What is Your Build???
« Reply #4 on: June 05, 2014, 04:35:05 pm »
Till 20 lvl I'll get 2 attribute points, so I wonder what be better to put it. +2 DEX, or +1 AGI and +1DEX or +1 INT? 7 AGI need for feat like Fancy Footwork and Interlooper, however I feel I can go without both.

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PS Hm... It seems my DEX already 13 (my char is 16 lvl), so it will be DEX 14 or DEX 13 AGI 7.
Definitely go 7 AGI and Fancy Footwork. It was single best decision i made with my DEX based melee hero.

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Re: What is Your Build???
« Reply #5 on: June 06, 2014, 08:22:42 pm »
Well, this build is alredy failed.
Next (I hope when the game well be released) build will be without Conditioning, 1 CON less, so it be 7 STR and 7 AGI from start, and 14 DEX at 20 lvl.
My dodging and evade so high with Nimble, I don't need more HP then 4 CON can give me.

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Re: What is Your Build???
« Reply #6 on: June 06, 2014, 11:11:08 pm »
My SMG character has just completed it at lvl 18 (Classic Mode) heck the new mode is way better, keep a 8.62 modified SMG with you and you will be godlike with a couple of WC ammo for armored targets.


Time to experiment with crossbows...

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Re: What is Your Build???
« Reply #7 on: June 07, 2014, 05:42:56 am »
Name: Ron Swanson
Level: 18

Attributes:
STR 7 ( 8 )
DEX 14
AGI 8
CON 4 ( 5 )
PER 3
WIL 3
INT 5

Skills:
Throwing 45 (83)
Melee 100 (185)
Dodge 100 (134)
Evasion 100 (134)
Stealth 75 (138)
Lockpicking 38 (82)
Traps 45 (94)
Mechanics 88 (95)
Electronics 88 (95)
Biology 33 (35)
Tailoring 88 (95)

Feats:
Nimble, Opportunist, Recklessness, Lightning Punches, Fancy Footwork, Cheap Shots, Expose Weakness, Combo, Vile Weaponry, Taste For Blood, Eviscerate.

Gear:
Rathound Regalia
Shock Tungsten Steel Knife : dmg 13-22, shock dmg 18-37
Bladed Pneumatic Ancient Rathound Leather Gloves : dmg 9-16
Efficient Low Frequency Shield Emitter : capacity 686, shielding 16/49/68/94/120
Siphoner Leather Tabi Boots : evasion/dodge +37
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Re: What is Your Build???
« Reply #8 on: June 07, 2014, 01:31:11 pm »
Kinda find it interesting that everyone is rolling a Dex based character... Well there was one exception there but still. is it really that overpowered at the moment?

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Re: What is Your Build???
« Reply #9 on: June 07, 2014, 02:01:42 pm »
Kinda find it interesting that everyone is rolling a Dex based character... Well there was one exception there but still. is it really that overpowered at the moment?
It's not that it's overpowered, it's because recent changes to the game made Dex based builds more interesting/viable.
PSI was buffed too, but everyone was using PSI since forever, people want something fresh (:

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Re: What is Your Build???
« Reply #10 on: June 07, 2014, 02:22:34 pm »
Yeah, I'd probably be making a PSI based character too cause I like it's style of gameplay but I'll have to keep waiting to do that.

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Re: What is Your Build???
« Reply #11 on: June 07, 2014, 09:27:33 pm »
Well, first playtrough completed game wil be with PSI-based build.
Second - DEX-melee unarmed fighter.
Right now I feel such melee-unarmed a bit too OP - you know, having unarmed attack at cost of 4 AP with fist weapon, or with the help of a food - 3 AP for fist weapon, and 2 AP for pure unarmed - this mean a lot.
It's even more powerful vs single enemy than PSI-build (but worse in crowd-control).
I have not found an enemy that could stand even 1 round, especially with pneumatic-fist weapon (but I decide to finish game before Beast for some reason).

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Re: What is Your Build???
« Reply #12 on: June 11, 2014, 06:10:32 pm »
No idea if i did it wrong, but i guess crossbows arent meant to be main weapons. They have major issues with armored targets without any AP rounds. I have been surviving using flame bolts and electric bolts, and when it comes to group of monster your pretty much F***ed...

Going back to my massive crit pistol built.

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Re: What is Your Build???
« Reply #13 on: June 12, 2014, 03:14:59 pm »
No idea if i did it wrong, but i guess crossbows arent meant to be main weapons. They have major issues with armored targets without any AP rounds. I have been surviving using flame bolts and electric bolts, and when it comes to group of monster your pretty much F***ed...

Going back to my massive crit pistol built.

I've never messed with a crossbow main build but that was always my feeling as well. It's great for a secondary weapon as it has several utillity bolts which can help a lot but as a main weapon. The damage is low, the AP to use is high. I don't think even the feats will make it good enough as a main weapon currently. But that is ok. Crossbows are versatile weapons due to the bolts and they have no str requirements so anyone can use them.

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Re: What is Your Build???
« Reply #14 on: June 13, 2014, 02:44:25 am »
I think crossbows can be tweaked or it needs to combo with PSI, as it does not depend on DEX and little on PER. The thing that intrigued me was the legendary crossbow strings that i found during my first character run through as well as getting crit for 200 by a stealth lurker with a crossbow. I think its viable just that it cannot be a single main weapon attack; it uses utility slots as well for just a mere 5 bolts while grenades can stack like a champ.