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== Description ==
 
== Description ==
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Talos is a remote old Biocorp outpost of the [[Hollow Earth]] research complex. It is located in the eastern reaches of Deep Caverns, beyond [[Warehouse Block 2|warehouse blocks]] and near [[Arke Power Station|Arke]] geothermal power station. Its original purpose is unknown, but it does not appear to have been a research facility. It now serves as a base for the Faceless forces fighting against Tchortists in Deep Caverns.
  
 
== Reputation with the Faceless ==
 
== Reputation with the Faceless ==
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Talking with the outpost's commander and allowing your mind to be read will potentially allow you to receive several batches of W2C ammo or grenades, as well as healing items. Whether the Faceless consider you an ally depends on acts previously committed in the game.
  
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Talking to the commander and allowing your mind to be read will potentially allow you to receive several batches of W2C ammo or grenades, as well as healing items. Whether the Faceless consider you an ally depends on acts previously committed in the game. You need +1 {{tooltip|reputation tracking works as a counter|net positive acts}} for ally status while anything less . In the latter case it's recommended not to talk to the commander at all, as turning Faceless hostile in DC spawns an endless amount of stealth-equipped [[Faceless Gaunt]]s.
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* 3 or more attitude points are needed for the best result, where you cooperated as much as possible. The faceless consider you an ally and are willing to share all their information and some supply packages.
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* 2-1 attitude points proves you're trustworthy and results in a friendly attitude with limited intelligence sharing and supplies.
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* 0 points results in a neutral attitude where you will get nothing out of the faceless, but they allow you to travel through their territory.
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* Anything less than that or having started [[Scout Faceless positions|a spying job]] for the Tchortists will turn the Faceless hostile immediately after the mindreading.
  
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As for the acts accounted for Faceless reputation
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In the latter case it's best not to talk to the commander at all to avoid the mindreading, unless one is prepared to take on the faceless. Getting out of Talos alive is a challenge in itself, and there are great numbers of stealthy [[Faceless Gaunt]]s patrolling the entire Faceless territory.
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{{tooltip | destroyor's Steam guide | [{{fullurl:https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/ | id=843557165}}]| }}
 
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{{tooltip | MichaelBurge's post on the Underrail forum | [{{fullurl:http://underrail.com/forums/index.php | topic=1763.msg9809#msg9809}}]| }}
 
  
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'''''Note''': The information hasn't yet been independently verified.''
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{| class="wikitable"
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! Points !! Condition(s)<!-- !! Flags-->
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| +1
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| Faceless group near Foundry is not hostile<br>The [[Faceless recon]] quest near Foundry is finished
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<!--| (faction attitude check)<br>quest_fo_facelessRecon_finished-->
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|-
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| +1
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| Faceless Mindreader returned safely from Rail Crossing
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<!--| npc_rcmindreader_removed-->
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|-
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| +1
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| Core City injured faceless is released<br>Did not kill the injured faceless<br>Did not attack the injured faceless
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<!--| npc_cc16_faceless_released<br>!npc_cc16_faceless_killed<br>!npc_cc_injuredFaceless_attacked-->
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|-
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| -1
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| Faceless Mindreader died in Rail Crossing
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<!--| npc_rcmindreader_dead-->
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|-
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| -5
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| Core City injured faceless is released<br>but also attacked
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<!--| npc_cc16_faceless_released<br>npc_cc_injuredFaceless_attacked-->
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| -5
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| Faceless group near Foundry is hostile
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<!--| (faction attitude check)-->
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| -5
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| Killed more than 10 facelesses {{tooltip|Does not count facelesses killed during the institute invasion.|globally}} plus in Buzzer's shop
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<!--| global_facelessKilled + loc_rcshop_deadfaceless > 10-->
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* The [[Get rid of the Faceless]] quest. '''+1/0/-1''' are possible {{tooltip|persuading the leader to let Buzzer live is a neutral outcome|outcomes}}.
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Additionally, points are deducted after a certain number of {{tooltip|Counts the same kills as the 'more than 10 kills' condition above.|faceless kills}}, depending on difficulty. 6 kills per point on Easy, 4 on Normal, 3 on Hard, 2 on DOMINATING.
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* The [[Faceless recon]] encounter near Foundry. '''+1/always-hostile'''.
 
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* Getting involved in the [[Core City]] blockade - '''always hostile'''
 
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* The [[Recover tunneler]] wounded captive - '''+1/always-hostile'''
 
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* West Wing [[Strange tremors|tremors]] - unknown, '''possibly not relevant'''
 
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* Institute elevator room events - '''not relevant'''
 
  
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{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center;"
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!rowspan="2"| Points !! colspan="4"| Faceless kills
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! Easy !! Normal !! Hard !! DOMINATING
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| 0
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| 0-6
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| 0-4
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| 0-3
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| 0-2
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|-
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| -1
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| 7-12
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| 5-8
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| 4-6
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| 3-4
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|-
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| -2
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| 13-18
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| 9-12
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| 7-9
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| 5-6
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| -3
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| 19-24
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| 13-16
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| 10-12
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| 7-8
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| -4
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| 25-30
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| 17-20
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| 13-15
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| 9-10
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| -5
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| 31-36
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| 21-24
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| 16-18
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There is no limit for this penalty. For example killing 30 facelesses on Normal difficulty would yield -7 attitude points (in addition to the -5 points from over 10 kills.) In versions older than [[1.0.3]], the number of faceless killed is not taken into account at all.
  
 
== Faceless forces ==
 
== Faceless forces ==

Revision as of 14:52, 30 July 2018

Talos OutpostUncontrolled zone
This old outpost has new residents.
Dc-flo.png
Location information
Music Unnatural Order
Located in Deep Caverns
Areas Talos Outpost
Connections Warehouse Block 2
NPCs Lora Baker
Faceless Centaur
Faceless Doctor
Faceless Commander
Technical
Map file(s) dc-fl

Talos Outpost is a location in Deep Caverns.

Description

Talos is a remote old Biocorp outpost of the Hollow Earth research complex. It is located in the eastern reaches of Deep Caverns, beyond warehouse blocks and near Arke geothermal power station. Its original purpose is unknown, but it does not appear to have been a research facility. It now serves as a base for the Faceless forces fighting against Tchortists in Deep Caverns.

Reputation with the Faceless

Talking with the outpost's commander and allowing your mind to be read will potentially allow you to receive several batches of W2C ammo or grenades, as well as healing items. Whether the Faceless consider you an ally depends on acts previously committed in the game.

  • 3 or more attitude points are needed for the best result, where you cooperated as much as possible. The faceless consider you an ally and are willing to share all their information and some supply packages.
  • 2-1 attitude points proves you're trustworthy and results in a friendly attitude with limited intelligence sharing and supplies.
  • 0 points results in a neutral attitude where you will get nothing out of the faceless, but they allow you to travel through their territory.
  • Anything less than that or having started a spying job for the Tchortists will turn the Faceless hostile immediately after the mindreading.

In the latter case it's best not to talk to the commander at all to avoid the mindreading, unless one is prepared to take on the faceless. Getting out of Talos alive is a challenge in itself, and there are great numbers of stealthy Faceless Gaunts patrolling the entire Faceless territory.

Faceless attitude calculation
Points Condition(s)
+1 Faceless group near Foundry is not hostile
The Faceless recon quest near Foundry is finished
+1 Faceless Mindreader returned safely from Rail Crossing
+1 Core City injured faceless is released
Did not kill the injured faceless
Did not attack the injured faceless
-1 Faceless Mindreader died in Rail Crossing
-5 Core City injured faceless is released
but also attacked
-5 Faceless group near Foundry is hostile
-5 Killed more than 10 facelesses globally plus in Buzzer's shop

Additionally, points are deducted after a certain number of faceless kills, depending on difficulty. 6 kills per point on Easy, 4 on Normal, 3 on Hard, 2 on DOMINATING.

Points Faceless kills
Easy Normal Hard DOMINATING
0 0-6 0-4 0-3 0-2
-1 7-12 5-8 4-6 3-4
-2 13-18 9-12 7-9 5-6
-3 19-24 13-16 10-12 7-8
-4 25-30 17-20 13-15 9-10
-5 31-36 21-24 16-18 11-12

There is no limit for this penalty. For example killing 30 facelesses on Normal difficulty would yield -7 attitude points (in addition to the -5 points from over 10 kills.) In versions older than 1.0.3, the number of faceless killed is not taken into account at all.

Faceless forces

Quests

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  • Nearby warehouses


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